by sschueller
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- No thank you.
I am glad that the first eID vote we had on this (in Switzerland) prevented private industry from issuing IDs etc.
What we have now (upcoming, after another vote) is an open source[1] non centralized eID issued by the government.[2]
Although there are still some problematic points (initial issuance software is not open source and who can ask for the ID is not limited enough) the solution we have now is the best way to do such a thing at this time.
[1] https://github.com/swiyu-admin-ch
[2] https://www.eid.admin.ch/de/swiyu-coming-soon-d
- I'm really wary of these initiatives, because perfect law enforcement is how society ossifies. Imagine if we could prosecute all homosexual tendencies when they happened, or all interracial relationships, or any other antiquated law. Society would never progress.
What happens if the government can now perfectly enforce that people under 18 can't do X or Y?
- I’m still waiting for the day where 100% of state drivers licenses are supported in wallet and anyone requesting ID are required to accept them. Quite literally the only reason I have a wallet these days is for the drivers license.
- I am against digital IDs. There’s a reason why security-minded people carry around physical hardware keys. The fact that Apple remains a black box company means I can’t trust them now and definitely not later when their changing financial circumstances COULD jeopardize management decisions and commitment to privacy.
by sublimefire
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- There was a post from trailofbits blog recently about how passport crypto works. Kind of related here.
I wonder if this is some zero knowledge proofs here or what? Reading the passport and its chip implies some terminal authentication capabilities coming from Apple devices. Passport would not allow reading sensitive data from the chip unless the terminal is valid.
Another question is if Apple is allowed to read your biometric data?
- It’s inevitable that identification and payments continue to digitize. I’d prefer that physical ID / cash remain legally protected but that I can also go for a run with only my watch and buy a beer afterward
by phantom784
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- Google Wallet supports this as well, but not for passports, only select state drivers licenses.
https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/12436402?hl=en
I wonder if passports will come to Google soon as well - that'd open it up nationwide as long as you have a passport.
- I am never handing my phone to a cop.
- I’m still going to keep using the digital id lane whenever I can. The gov and tsa already has my biometrics because of my passport + global entry + precheck status. Might as well use the much faster security lane.
But this offering from Apple seems like it could be a nice choice for folks with passports but no desire to get pre or global entry. (Which seriously if you have a credit card that covers it, definitely do it)
by the_sleaze_
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- Someone recently joked about Apple holding elections on the iPhone with Face ID to verify your voting eligibility.
Hmm..
by kukkeliskuu
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- In completely unrelated news, Spain’s PM proposes mandatory Digital ID for social media users at Davos.
https://idtechwire.com/spains-pm-proposes-mandatory-digital-...
- As an aside, I've been using TSA Touchless at select airports.
It's pretty slick.
No ID, nor Board Pass needed.
Just walk up to TSA, and only facial recognition is needed. It's extremely fast too.
https://www.tsa.gov/touchless-id
- While Apple has some admirable history in standing up to government information requests[1], am I alone in wondering now if Apple has started to voluntarily align itself with the current administration? For example, Apple is helping to build Donald Trump's new gold-plated ballroom.[2] (!)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_d...
[2] https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/trumps-ballro...
by mooiedingen
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- The age of digitized "Slave Certificates" is upon us... As only the "Masters" that are mandated by the government extending to the UN that "Need" it for you to prove who that you are who you are assigned as at birt(In case nature was involved) for when you are already made "Artificial" it comes build in...
"How dare you fill in another name than WE ASSIGNED You?!?"
In an age wherein everything is backdoored somehow voluntary or not, "You Shall still sync your digital twin!!!" So we can predict pre-crime whilst we are busy with depopulation & Migration(See press release last Bilderbergclub meeting!)
Make no mistake as 95% of countries is looking to implement this.. for it is your right as defined by the United Nations(whenever democracy needs to be declared war!) (See joint declaration of 1942)
- > They will also be asked to use their iPhone to read the chip embedded on the back of their passport to ensure the data’s authenticity.
I installed an RFID app from the Apple app store (3rd party, not from Apple) and it couldn't read the chip in my passport. Perhaps Apple's firmware was filtering those out at the time?
by withinboredom
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- Doesn't seem to work if you are outside the US, it's not even an option to add.
by robin_reala
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- …in the US.
by SilverElfin
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- I feel uncomfortable with these changes. Between this, digital currencies, airlines not doing printed boarding passes, metros requiring smartphones, … it feels like we are going to lose control and privacy as consumers.
- Digital ID is a misnomer, it should be called "Digital Social Application". These are NOT ID"s. They're government dreamcasted app's for managing the lives of civilians.
- Doesn’t give the option, perhaps because I am in London at the moment. The California e-driver’s license app didn’t have this nonsense restriction.
- Yeah I'm not handling my phone to a police officer for identification. This will give them immediate probable cause to search my phone.
It is INSANE to me that people are excited about this nonsense. Apple Pay at least made sense as a back up source for something inconsequential, legally speaking.
by altairprime
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- Honestly, hooray for dragging the U.S. into everyday people having a federal ID in their pocket. Having to check fifty different ID layouts times three revisions is a nightmare and no one uses passports domestically today outside of airports.
- Apple has introduced ankle tag. It's just legislation away for everyone to be tracked in realtime and perhaps even listened to, initially for "keywords" to protect <insert group of people>.
by josh_today
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by sugarpimpdorsey
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- Can we use this for voter ID?
- No thanks. It's 2025, identity needs to be resilient, so having a national public blockchain that every public administration entity, every private who wants to participate, compensated for the IT resources they provide, whether a citizen or a business maintains well, that makes sense. The fingerprint of a key is shared, this key is on a smart-card, therefore offline, on well-known (bank cards, SIM cards) proven and reliable platforms, and signs what is needed with zk proofs where required.
Identity on mobile, proprietary platforms, whose level of complexity makes it humanly impossible to understand them even for governments themselves, notoriously closely monitored and yet with a long history of bugs and problems, is UNACCEPTABLE.
It's time to understand that IT is the nervous system of society and that public information must be public, for everyone, not for a specific actor and with no specific actor being "more equal" than others.
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