by mothballed
3 subcomments
- Even the legal weed state senators were voting for this.
It is mostly about shifting profits from mom and pop, low regulation hemp industry to wealthy corporations that own dispensaries that have gargantuan regulatory costs that gatekeep out most the competition. This ensures profits are captured by the wealthy rather than small family type setups.
Wealthy former hemp companies will shift to the "legal" weed market, while the mom and pops will get completely wiped out.
- All of this stuff is already built around loopholes.
> But the provision that was inserted into the government funding bill makes illegal any hemp product that contains more than 0.4 milligrams of THC per container.
Now the online "hemp" industry will shift to selling gummies in "containers" that really equate to individually wrapped. You'll get bulk discounts for buying groups of 30 "containers", but what you get will feel like Japanese-style individual wrapping.
BTW: This was kinda-sorta what I encountered when I bought gummies in Ontario, Canada. The gummy was in a single "container" and had roughly ~0.4 mg THC.
- Cannabis needs to be reclassified. I think this is the right thing to do, actually, but only if it came at the same time as reclassifying. This is a drug market that should be regulated, but not class 1.
by hemp_is_canvas
2 subcomments
- I've been a regular consumer of the results of this since about 2020 when I discovered it.
It's been quite the journey watching the industry boom and evolve and get better and better.
I've seen an incredible incredible amount of ignorance on this topic.
Prior to this, I found 1 comment on HN mentioning this last night.
On reddit, it's not on the frontpage of r/politics, r/moderatepolitics or anything relevant.
I can find it on r/news but like every other thread not a single person is mentioning something very factual.
Rand tried to stop this provision in the Senate. 76/100 senators voted for this ban to remain.
76 senators from across the political spectrum, from every state have decided to secretly try to destroy a $30b industry, 300,000 jobs, and a lot of lives.
by hollywood_court
3 subcomments
- The party of small government strikes again.
- Each and every character inserted in a Bill must have an owner: who inserted that character.
Google Docs can do this. Why can't the Congress??
- Not only that, the same bill includes a provision which allows "...eight Republican senators to seek hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages for alleged privacy violations stemming from the Biden administration's investigation of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot." [1].
This ability to tack random unrelated legislation onto a bill makes no sense to me.
[1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/deal-end-us-shutdow...
- I feel like I am missing something here, and it is around it being called "hemp".
Does this actually have any impact on legal dispensaries, their products, farms, etc?
Does this make it harder to eventually de-schedule pot.
by mullingitover
7 subcomments
- This whole affair was Congress at its swampiest.
GOP: We are holding firm on a clean extension bill. We will shut down the government for the longest stretch in the history of the nation because we are so dedicated to our pure and honest principles.
Democrats: We will use the same leverage that GOP has used time and time again by forcing them to choose between nuking the filibuster or (in our case, this time) negotiating to preserve health care access for millions.
GOP: We will absolutely not preserve access to health care for a single person (ok fine: one person[1]), but we will reopen the government if you allow us to embezzle millions personally, and also extort the cannabis industry.
Democrats: Sold!
[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/11/03/nx...
- Contact your representatives and let them know this is BS. [1] When Texas Gov. Gregg Abbott was trying to ban that same "loophole" the business community had time to organize & lobby against it, but in addition, regular citizens sent in over 120k letters, there's footage of people moving boxes and boxes of letters into his office. [2] In the end, he folded and kept the law as it was despite a pretty big push from his party. Was that the reason he didn't end up acting on it? It's hard to know, but it definitely showed him public sentiment was against it.
Don't be apathetic! Letters & phone calls work best, but emails through their official contact page at least get glanced at by an intern.
[1]
Find and contact elected officials
https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
[2]
120,000 Texans send letters and petitions against THC ban to Gov. Abbott
https://www.kut.org/politics/2025-06-03/austin-tx-thc-ban-la...
by ApolloFortyNine
6 subcomments
- Where'd all this abolish the senate nonsense come from recently? I get people have been complaining about 'flyover' states for a while now, but the Republicans also have the majority in the House at the moment.
At least wait until the House doesn't represent the current majority party in the Senate (like it almost certainly will again eventually) to make that argument.
I'm mildly worried that it's just an attempt to speed up major change the next time a party has a super majority, by planting the seeds early...
- Citizens United
The more money you allow in politics, the more politics becomes about money.
by whimsicalism
26 subcomments
- The Senate is fundamentally a ridiculous way of representing 350 million people and we’re going to continue to get absurd unrepresentative outcomes for as long as it remains a relevant body. There’s no getting around this and it will structurally just get worse and worse. Simply no way something like it exists 200 years from now, it is probably the biggest flaw in the US political structure right now.
by candiddevmike
7 subcomments
- The party of small government killing a new, billion dollar industry because Mitch McConnell's state beverage is seeing declining sales.
by ProllyInfamous
0 subcomment
- If you're anywhere near Cherokee, North Carolina ... it's definitely worth the drive / prices.
These natives certainly know what they're doing with their dependant-domestic sovereign nation.
by mind-blight
1 subcomments
- This is a weird one. It absolutely should not be haphazardly added as a rider. The 0.4 per container is also insane. But, this really was an unintended loophole of the 2018 farm bill. Most plants grow THCa, which turns into Delta-9 when heated. They were ignorant and straight up forgot to specify anything except Delta-9.
Cannabis is a bioremediator and absorbs basically every environmental toxin from the ground (pesticides, heavy metals, etc.). Extraction (for CBD and THC oil) increases the concentration of any present toxins.
The only way you know of the problem is by thoroughly testing every batch. Pesticides that are safe at low levels can get concentrated and become really problematic at high levels.
States where marijuana is legal require all of this testing, so the products are much safer. Hemp-derived THC does not require these tests. (Same is true for CBD, but that's a while other conversation...)
- US system of creating legislation seems…broken
by philcrocket
2 subcomments
- As others mentioned, unfortunately the last bill allowed for some large loopholes and emboldened underground growers (also due to more lax state laws) to grow and flood the market with sub-par or even poisonous product. It’d a billion dollar market that state actors and cartels alike are using to launder money (and ruin lives). Very informative video on this: https://youtu.be/3qC4c-zNxTg?si=oy4ab6kuo27fJqcx
- Or, updated: https://hightimes.com/news/politics/trump-signs-shutdown-dea...
by platevoltage
0 subcomment
- I remember being lectured about how this needed to be a "clean funding bill".
- Alcohol lobbyists did this. Amazing swamp :(
I was really stupid to think Republicans wanted a clean CR and Democrats wanted to help people with insurance.
Both sides wanted to slip in something their lobbyists wanted, and they did it. Win.
by oompydoompy74
0 subcomment
- Think of the children! Anyways, would you like to try this new strawberry vodka I invested in?
- This corrects a drafting error. There were never supposed to be be products containing THC selling in gas stations.
- During every GOP administration at any state or local level, you can be sure that two things will happen:
- individuals will lose some freedoms
- the most powerful companies will get more freedoms
- Surely we must be ignoring the rules...
- This nonsense of tacking bills onto other bills needs to end. As does this nonsensical fearmongering of Hemp and Marijuana. Absolutely none of it is actually evidence-driven from what I remember. I know the CDC has (had?) side effect stuff but I think it might be very heavily exaggerated.
- Seems like they are doing this now just to distract from the Tucker/Epstein controversy.
by insane_dreamer
1 subcomments
- It's absolutely insane how unrelated provisions can be inserted into a CR instead of being debated and passed on their own merits (or bundled with related laws).
Regardless of what the measure is, or what party it's coming from, it's a significant flaw in the process.
- This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game.
I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?
by luxuryballs
1 subcomments
- is this the ongoing legacy of big pharma influence in government? there must be some reason why tapping this sign is not good enough for their purposes, maybe it’s too hard to enforce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Analogue_Act
by phendrenad2
1 subcomments
- This is from 3 days ago. Did this part of the bill actually make it in? Like, asking for a friend, maaaaaan.
- These are all just symptoms. The underlying vulnerability is the median US culture, which permits venality, scamming, skuldugery, shenanigans and crime in its ruling class.
by micromacrofoot
1 subcomments
- One thing I think most Americans can agree on is that Congress is utterly useless.
by ratelimitsteve
4 subcomments
- our congress has been intentionally rendered non-functional by people who are open about the fact that they want the president to be a dictator.
edit: as always, downvotes are invited to rebut. as always, they will not.
by zapataband2
0 subcomment
- I guess all those involved in burgeoning hemp trade are just in time for the mines to re-open. We're ruled by sociopaths and we don't live in a democracy.
- [dead]
by charcircuit
0 subcomment
- [flagged]
by whalesalad
2 subcomments
- The alcohol lobbyists did this.
> And in a letter Monday obtained by MJBizDaily, representatives from major alcohol lobbies urged senators to thwart Paul’s efforts.
> His “shortsighted actions could threaten the delicately balanced deal to reopen the federal government,” a Nov. 10 letter from the American Distilled Spirits Alliance, Distilled Spirits Council, Wine Institute, Beer Institute and Wine America reads.
https://mjbizdaily.com/trump-backs-hemp-thc-ban-included-in-...
- I have friends who smoke and have seen over the years how they've abandoned hobbies in favor of smoking more. Where's the outrage about that? I take public transport and the people who smoke make the entire train smell. I just don't understand why people see this as a bad thing. Other than I agree the implementation will probably be awful.