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Intel could return to Apple computers in 2027

130 points by DamnInteresting

by GeekyBear

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This link has much more information:
> Apple has used version 0.9.1 of process design kit (PDK) designed for Intel 18AP node. With performance, density, power, and every other metric going according to plan, Intel could become Apple's source of advanced node production in 2027... The 18A-P node enhances Intel's 18A by incorporating RibbonFET and PowerVia technologies, which offer better performance and energy efficiency. Compared to the regular 18A node, these improvements include newly designed low-threshold voltage components, optimized elements to reduce leakage, and refined ribbon width specifications, all aimed at boosting performance-per-watt metrics.
https://www.techpowerup.com/343423/intel-could-manufacture-a...
Remember that Apple previously dual sourced SOCs from both TSMC and Samsung before dropping Samsung when they fell behind and chips built on their process node were materially worse.
This is trial production, not a done deal. Intel has to deliver on their promises.
The good news for Intel is that Apple has a long history of paying up front for dedicated manufacturing lines once a manufacturing partner proves that they can hit Apple's QC metrics and price point.

by mosura

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The most obvious thing would be Intel making security processor modules. Get the supply chain for those onshore, from the US point of view.
Doesn’t require the absolute latest processes.

by jsheard

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The funniest outcome would be Apple throwing so much money at Intel Foundry that they end up monopolizing the leading-edge nodes, like they do at TSMC, leaving the rest of Intel to fight for scraps on their own production lines. I guess Intel also uses TSMC now but... yeah, as mentioned.

by andy_ppp

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I think the costs in the contract when Intel don’t deliver the volume and yields will effectively mean Apple ends up owning the remains of the company.

by poemxo

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I trust TSMC more than Intel, and I can't help but wonder if this is related https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46045236

by umanwizard

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Semi-clickbait headline: as others have pointed out, this is just about who fabs the Apple-designed chips, not a contemplated return to x86. Still pretty interesting if true; would be cool to see Apple diversify from TSMC. I'm rooting for Intel!

by bhouston

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Returning as a US on shore manufacturer of Apple designed chips, and apparently not the leading edge ones. This feels like making Trump happy while Apple keeps full control.

by mikey_p

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I really wish they would scale back up and finish the fab in Ohio and bring it online sooner rather than later.

by echelon_musk

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If Intel make the CPUs in the USA are they going to be shipped to China for final assembly?

by xnx

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Source: https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1994422001952555318

by mproud

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More like Intel outside

by meindnoch

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Smart move. The geopolitical clock is ticking for TSMC.

by BonoboIO

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Has intel caught up to TSMC? I highly doubt that they can manufacture that high end chips.

by ChrisArchitect

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[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46080424

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by diamond559

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Dear leader bought Intel, Tim Apple needs to appease dear leader to avoid tariffs. 2+2

by awestroke

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Well I sure hope not. I'll never buy a mac with an Intel processor again