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Significant performance improvements with Edge 134

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by raymondgh

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I have this strange hypocritical mental model which simultaneously dismisses improvements to Edge as irrelevant while also wishing and rooting for more browser competition elsewhere.

by cadamsdotcom

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Exciting - the article implies it came from a collection of improvements. Best of all they’re claiming the improvement is observed across platforms!
2 questions the article didn’t address:
1. What were the changes, and what was each one’s contribution to the total?
2. How much - if any - of this improvement be observed in other Chromium browsers?

by bni

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One good thing the EU mandated recently is that you can uninstall Edge. On my gaming PC, I installed LibreWolf from the Microsoft store instead.

by Kamshak

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Any perf improvement is great but the way they promote it seems a bit much?
1.7% faster navigation times 2% faster startup times 5% to 7% improvement in web page responsiveness
I'd say in practice a 2% faster startup time is probably barely noticeable?

by zelon88

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> These results come from our field telemetry, which represent real-world web usage on all types of hardware and websites.
I wonder what the speedup would be without field telemetry. Also what is the electrical consumption for all the telemetry-related packets hopping around the internet? What would the speedup be like for the internet itself if we stopped using telemetry on everything.

by buccal

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Graph with misleading y-axis does not give any credibility to Microsoft.

by AshleysBrain

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Wish they said what they actually did to get these improvements!

by Traubenfuchs

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We are using the same medium/platform (browser with HTML/JS/CSS) for decades (plural!) now and mostly using the same, boring websites.
How come there is still so much performance to gain and how come there is still so much NEED for it?
In the time CPU's and browsers got twice as fast together, it seems like web apps got twice as slow.
The only web app that people use a lot that has any justification to demand this is probably google maps 3D mode -but then again, we already had that webgl magic a DECADE ago as well.
Look at the most used websites. All of them are mostly text, images and sometimes (4k) video. All of this should be blazingly fast by now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-visited_websites

by breadwinner

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I switched to Chrome after noticing severe problems with Edge: The laptop's fan would turn on and task manager shows no processes consuming high CPU. Eventually I found that Edge is the culprit. Killing every Edge process quiets the fan.
Another problem with Edge is intrusion into the web page. Curved corners for example. Every pixel in the page belongs to the application, and Edge is intruding. When you select text Edge shows its own menu, and you're confused as to whether the application is showing the menu or Edge.

by qwertyhu66

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The y-axis of the graph isn't even labelled

by jupp0r

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Aside: it’s impressive how the whole blog post does not mention a single detail of what they actually did to achieve these performance improvements. Code changes, really?

by parliament32

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I wonder how this compares to barebones Chrome, given that they're both Chromium-based.
I don't love Edge but at work I use it almost exclusively, because of the tighter integration with the Windows identity/authentication broker -- SSO flows are much less painful (read: effectively transparent) if your org uses AAD/EntraID as an IdP.
EDIT: I tested myself and it actually is ~4.8% faster than stock Chrome, using this benchmark anyway.

by Dwedit

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Microsoft Edge sends every URL you visit to Microsoft. Hard pass.

by metaphor

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Curious how the blog post published April 10 goes out of its way to highlight Speedometer 3.0...almost 2 weeks after 3.1 was released[1].
[1] https://browserbench.org/announcements/speedometer3.1/

by snitch182

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Interesting. Talking about it as if it was their achievement. Was it ?

by aucisson_masque

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> 1.7% faster navigation times
No one cares honestly, not even the hardest edge fan.
It would be more interesting to know how they improved edge performance.

by feverzsj

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Not feeling any difference. The only significant change is my custom fonts are reset.

by ExoticPearTree

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I use Edge as I used to use Internet Explorer: to download Chrome.
MS seems unable or unwilling to make a decent browser. Edge can't be started until you click next through three screens where it tries to make you to create an account with them. The default homepage is full of ads on that website of theirs. I could go on and on, but seriously, I don't think anyone cares about Edge performance.