- There is research correlating autism and mothers taking certain medications (painkillers, antidepressants). Since autism is hereditary, there is a significant chance that these mothers are autistic too. Autistic people have a vastly high risk of depression, and often have unusual pain thresholds, requiring more painkillers. I would not be surprised of the correlation was real, but the direction of action was reversed; after all, it's plausible that autism causes the need for taking more medication.
by paulvnickerson
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- Here's the relevant study from earlier this year: https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pre...
It's a meta-analysis that considered a bunch of individual studies, their effect size, and their quality. It claims that Tylenol use has increased alongside a 20-fold increase in autism rates, suggesting causation, and recommends immediate efforts to reduce Tylenol use during pregnancy.
One objection that I've seen is that the lead author, Dr. Baccarelli, has a conflict of interest because he was an expert witness in a lawsuit about acetaminophen and neurodevelopmental disorders. If you think about it though, someone knowledgeable enough to write this paper is exactly the kind of person you'd want to serve as an expert witness.
by docstryder
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- It is the safest painkiller currently available. Ibuprofen can cause gut bleeding and renal issues if overdosed on. We all know about opiates.
Some facts - typical adult dose is 1g. Max suggested cap on the drug label is 3g per day (about 6 pills at usual 500mg dose). You need to take 10g (20 pills) to be at real risk of hepatotoxicity.
So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pills per day vs 2 pills per day).
Not your "wildly unsafe at slightly above usage levels" AT ALL (as someone posted on here)
This is not harmless - this might cause someone to take more dangerous painkillers when acetaminophen (tylenol) might have safely helped them. The autism stuff is plainly false and disproved.
- I'm always surprised at the hostility to Acetaminophen on HN (or Paracetamol as we call it here in the UK).
It's one of the most commonly used medicines in the UK - and certainly the most popular painkiller.
YouGov even did a survey confirming that - https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/docume...
The safety aspects of it are not something that gets raised in the UK much - other than suicide attempts, which are going to happen no matter what medicine you use.
Probably the biggest risk comes from people not realising that other medicines (e.g. for cold and flu) often include it, so they double up on a dose.
by spchampion2
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- Judging from the comments I've seen, nobody believes this because RFK has completely shot his credibility, and I don't blame them either.
But it turns out there may actually be some emerging evidence to support this. This recent Harvard meta-analysis [1] from just last month looked at 46 different studies and suggested that there may actually be something happening here although it's not conclusive. Correlation but not yet causation.
Nobody should be making policy on this yet, but it's the kind of thing that I would allocate some research dollars to if I hadn't just fired all of the competent researchers.
1 - https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pre...
- This is about to cause a huge spike in child deaths due to Reye's syndrome. Parents will choose Aspirin to treat their child's fevers, despite warnings, because that's what they took as a kid, and it worked then.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reye_syndrome
- Well this should be provable within about 5 years if this Tylenol is truly the cause. Let's just have a few states in the US eliminate Tylenol usage during pregnancy, and watch the autism disappear.
Any volunteers?
by deepsquirrelnet
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- > That report will also suggest a medicine derived from folate – a water-soluble vitamin – can be used to treat symptoms of the developmental disorder in some people, according to the Journal.
I think folate supplementation is generally already a fairly standard recommendation during pregnancy, since deficiency is linked to significant neural tube defects during pregnancy (eg CDC [1]). It's at least interesting that folate-derived medicines may also treat symptoms.
[1] https://www.cdc.gov/folic-acid/about/index.html#:~:text=Abou...
by protonbob
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- There really are risks. It's just not worth it during pregnancy. The pain killing effects of tylenol aren't worth the potential risks during pregnancy.
https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-s...
- I wonder if this hating on autism is part of the regime's focus on loyalty. Autistic people tend to make their own plans and are much more independent. I'd never be able to follow orders in an army for example.
Whereas the current administration is all about loyalty over facts. They even make the meteorological employees do a loyalty test now so they'll follow the narrative and not the science.
- Don’t you wish we have a short sell reporting data so we can check if people in the know already shorted the stock?
- I can't wait for autism diagnosis to be linked to psychologists & paediatricians, and their subsequent banning.
- https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/counter/pdf/10.1186/s129...
Data does appear to show a possible link, definitely at the least warrants further research.
by susiecambria
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- Not specific to tylenol and autism, but I think important: RFK Jr. will be issuing findings using "gold-standard science" and hold up the findings as definitive (as proof, etc.) at the same time that he completely minimizes and bemoans current scientific processes. While we may be able to tell the difference between RFK's BS science and real science, what does this mean for everyone else? Especially because RFK Jr. does not trust science?
by FrankWilhoit
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- Who sold short? How big a bribe will be given to reverse this?
- My wife is already disproportionately denied pain management compared to me - I’d be very, very concerned about how this result gets implemented.
But at least they figured out autism by September, right?
- Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment:
Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirely reasonable, but it can kill you.
Regardless of any autism links, it's good to be careful with this stuff.
by mountainriver
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- It’s insane that the RFK crowd continues to not consider that the increase is just due to better diagnoses.
I wouldn’t entirely rule out there being environmental factors, but from the data I could gather it seems that acetaminophen usage has decreased in pregnancy over the last several decades in the US, while autism has increased.
This all seems to go back to the boomer generation believing the world was simpler when they grew up and that it was somehow ruined. That may be true about some things but the reality of their generation is they had no idea what people were going through, and didn’t have the language to describe it
- https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406 seems like a good review.
- Up until yesterday it was vaccines. Now it’s acetaminophen, and nobody is batting an eyelash at the about face.
- When something like this happens there’s a non-zero chance some slimy hedge fund is behind this pushing conspiracy theories on gullible folks to tank a stock.
- Well, time to pick up Tylenol shares on the dip.
by burnt-resistor
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- Someone needs to find a new brain worm for the heroin junkie who dabbled in environmental law that gets him doing the right thing™ like:
- going after quacks who promote bleach, horse dewormers (maybe that's the problem), and raw milk
- adopt the precautionary principle
- approve EU sunscreen compounds without animal testing and banning reef/human unsafe ones
- leave science to scientists
- increase regulatory oversight over food manufacturing, additive, and supply chain regulation so there aren't canyons of non-enforcement or exclusions between FDA and USDA
Or, maybe, this is really radical... find someone else competent to do the job.
by jiggawatts
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- If he’s right, we’ll know before the end of Trump’s term.
How much are people willing to bet that the incidence of autism will remain unchanged and the administration will disavow everything.
“Nobody knew autism was so complicated.” — future Trump, probably.
by sandworm101
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- Coorelation does not mean causation.
I remember an old study linking ultrasounds to lefthandedness. It was legit. Families with access to ultrasounds lived in countries/areas where lefthandedness was more culturally accepted, places where it was not drilled out of kids. The study was correct, but anyone touting it as causation was totally incorrect.
Fyi, sharks are way more likely to attack people with australian accents. Never go swimming with an auzzi.
- Buy the dip?
- I've been talking about this for a little while: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45006936
I'll take RFK being the stopped clock on this over him causing yet more harm to the medical community and to Americans' health.
- The amount of anti-science hysteria and sexism in this comment section is abhorrent. I expected better from HN.
by buellerbueller
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- ugh, i am allergic to ibuprofen and aspirin (all NSAIDs to be precise). tylenol is my only OTC option.
by John23832
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- This man says everything causes autism.
- Harvard study: the science is inconclusive and more research is needed.[1]
News outlets: no credible scientific evidence.
Uh oh spaghettios. The more the leftwing "resists" the more their "science" self-image will disconnect with reality. Like most things with this administration, I think that's the real goal.
[1] 14 August 2025 in BMC Environmental Health. 27 of 46 studies reported a positive association between prenatal acetaminophen and neurodevelopmental disorders like autism and ADHD.
by johnbellone
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- There's a big difference between "using Tylenol may increase the risk of autism" and "Tylenol causes autism".
If this study is accurate, it merely links the two together, and does not provide the reason. The problem with RFK is he's using it as a way to appease his own base to justify an anti-vaccination and anti-science agenda.
by Refreeze5224
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- If RFK Jr says it's true, that's how I know it isn't. They go to great lengths to point out they're "using gold-standard science", which also makes me certain they aren't. They can't be, because none of this is about autism or science, it's about pushing their political agenda.
- Good time to buy. While the cult might take this to heart and stop using Tylenol alltogether, there will be lawsuits to protect the brand and the company, and considering the lack of proof, in the end they will suceed.
- Just one slight problem:
Tylenol was introduced in 1955. Autism was first scientifically documented in 1926. If Tylenol causes autism, how did those parents in the 1920s get their hands on it?
Also, wouldn't there been a clear link between Tylenol sales and the occurrence of autism? Where is the data showing that the adoption of Tylenol in the 1960s resulted in a rise in autism, and that the "rise" of autism in the 1990s is linked to an increase in Tylenol use?
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- Why are doctors telling women that it's okay to take Tylenol during pregnancy in the first place? Everything they put in their bodies can have an effect on the baby so medication for pregnant mothers should be severely limited. Why haven't we learned from the Thalidomide scandal?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal
Tylenol only helps for minor aches and pains that frankly, pregnant mothers should just deal with for the good of their unborn child. The risk is not worth it.
RFK Jr. isn't right on everything, but he's not wrong on everything either and it's refreshing seeing someone head HHS that isn't in big pharma's pocket for a change.
- The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying that of the 5X increase in autism over the last 25 years, we can confidently say that nX of this is due to changing diagnosis standards. And if n is anything less than 5, the medical community has work to do in solving this problem and not passing the blame and accusing suffering parents of being crazy.
- We've known for years that tylenol affected thought processes:
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/03/30/acetaminoph...
- Ibuprofen is NSAID (non steroid anti inflammatory), oaracetamol is not. Related but different.
As long as autism, there can be no causative link. Millions have autism, billions take paracetamol. Autism has, like its cousin schizophrenia, a strong genetic-familial basis. Hardly any environmental factor increases the risk so much to be worrisome.