- I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release.
There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsistencies everywhere and - well, I could go on.
Basically the vibe I get from it is that they think their users are dumb - they won't care about things like this and that they want everything to look like a preschoolers tablet.
by dreamcompiler
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- Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena:
1. Old bugs are not fixed.
2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds.
3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them.
4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them.
My workflow productivity takes a months-long hit every time Apple upgrades MacOS. As a result I rarely upgrade MacOS until it's around 3 years old and I have no choice.
It appears that Tahoe is going to be the worst example of this in a long time.
Which is why I'm moving as much of my daily workflow as possible to Linux.
by 12_throw_away
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- I swear I don't usually complain about UI styling updates, because it's usually not a big deal - but this looks really, really bad [1]. It's less functional with bizarre transparency choices destroying legibility, and big rounded corners taking up more dead space. And stylistically, the layouts just look unbalanced and amateurish (It reminds me of what happens when I attempt to do CSS layouts). Most Linux desktops unironically look better than this.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/macos-26-tahoe-the-a...
by OGEnthusiast
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- The reason Liquid Glass on macOS specifically is getting so much blowback is that it isn't just updating the translucency effect with the new glass refraction effect - they've also increased the border radius of most windows, increased paddings in toolbars, sidebars, etc. and overall made the UI much less information-dense, which is wild for a desktop OS. If they had just changed the translucency effect, I think this would be much better received.
Personally, I'm sticking with macOS Sequoia for now, and if macOS 27 goes even more in the less-information-density direction, I'll probably fully move off of macOS, which is a shame as a 20-year Apple user.
- I decided to install this and the updated iOS today to see how I felt about it.
My very initial impressions on MacOS:
(1) I like the look of Safari better and the Mail app compared to the prior designs. They both look really nice to me and the Mail app especially looks like a huge improvement in terms of design unification with some of the features like summaries and unsubscribe options that looked bolted on in the past now blending in seamlessly.
(2) I really, really don't like the new icons! Especially so on iOS.
(3) On iOS the app group/folders look terrible to me with the way they distort my wallpaper. Not a fan.
(4) A lot of people are complaining about transparent icons. It's not a valid complaint and is strong evidence whoever is saying that hasn't used the new OS as that is a choice you can make if you want. The default is not transparent.
(5) The increased radii in some places doesn't seem to have any meaningful impact to my information density. A simple comparison of Chrome (old styling) and Safari (with the liquid glass design) shows that Safari has a few pixels fewer in height search + tab bar as a concrete example.
(6) Messages app in MacOS looks like shit. I hate almost everything about it.
(7) Spotlight search has marked improvements! UI is nicer and functionality has expanded greatly (eg clipboard search).
- Whew. Those screenshots: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/macos-26-tahoe-the-a...
As a KDE Plasma dev, I always counted on us getting better, but I didn't expect the competition to get so much worse. We'd be flamed to high and heaven for shipping broken notification popups and rendering glitches like that in a prod release.
What happened internally to cause this, I wonder?
- I feel like we’ve gone full circle. For decades Apple hardware sucked and was badly overpriced, but you paid the price to enjoy running Mac OS X. Now Apple makes amazing hardware (especially laptops) but the drawback is that you have to run macOS on them.
I really wish Asahi Linux had more support, I would have bought a couple M4 Minis.
- Awful cheap UX, cartoonish style with huge padding, lack of structure and hierarchy. The spacing is inconsistent, everything is rounded. The app launcher stutters, the icons load one by one, it flickers each time I do the 4 finger gesture. Why does the volume bubble have tick marks but the one in the menu doesn't? The trash icon looks like the windows recycle bin or gnome theme from 20 years ago, not sure why it's flattened like that.
- I always considered the butterfly keyboard[1] the point at which Apple's design system jumped the shark as it focused on it's own aesthetics vs. building quality and reliable products.
Funny enough, it's the only time period since 1999 that I was apple free for a while. My MBP broke. I've previously had a butterfly keyboard on my work mac, and it got replaced on a regular bases. While unfortunate for a work computer, this was not acceptable as my personal one with no spares)
Thankfully Apple returned to making great products that work, and I bought the next MBP.
Seeing that Apple's returning to it's "design roots"[2], I really hope they do not loose sight of building great products that work well for their customers.
[1] https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Butterfly_keyboard
[2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-14/apple-...
- (This about iOS, not Mac, but obviously a lot is similar.)
I might be in the minority on hn, but I’m using iOS 26 for the first time today and am pretty happy with the new design. For one, it’s a lot snappier and faster. I’m glad they finally did something about the slow-ass animations iOS had in a lot of places. Secondly, it has a lot more personality. I enjoy that. Thirdly, they finally moved more basic UI stuff close to the thumbs instead of literally 6 inches away at the top of the screen. Love that. Knowing app designers, my apps are about to get easier to use just by migrating to the new UX concepts Apple is pushing.
The glass look is mostly fine. iOS had contrast issues before, and I don’t think it’s any worse. If anything, it’s more adaptive to different types of backgrounds now.
There are some visual glitches and weird things, but they’re pretty minor and will be resolved with time. The glass panes for, say, folders look nice, and I like it more than the previous blur.
by asdhtjkujh
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- I should know better, but I'm still surprised they're shipping this version of Liquid Glass. Performance is stable but there are so many UI bugs and inconsistencies that haven't been fixed from early betas, including low-hanging fruit that a second year design student would notice. I don't mind change or interface elements moving around but keynote-level UI overhauls should be fully implemented at launch, otherwise people are stuck using a broken OS for a year.
At this point I'm doubtful that these will be addressed in the 26.X updates, so the wait begins for 27.0...
by asadotzler
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- Apple no longer cares about disabled people.
Transparent UI, with controls sitting on top of arbitrary and changing content can NEVER be legible/discernible. Apple knows this, but fashion was more important than function and they decided, "who cares about disabled people, anyway."
Microsoft learned this lesson back in the Vista era but Apple's charging ahead with this terrible set of changes that will literally disable millions of users, people who will need to visit the accessibility settings to reduce the transparency.
It's a sad day when a company that has often lead in accessibility ships the least accessible OS in modern history. I guess it was a nice run having a Big Tech company to point to as a good example of doing various accessibility things well. Damn.
- They went way too far with the corner radii and pill shapes imo, looks like a Fisher Price toy. Some inner buttons retained the old radii and don't match the outer window radii anymore.
- I am the only one to think that these days, GNOME and KDE are more usable than anything made by Microsoft or Apple? I think part of the reason is that devs working on these projects don't have an incentive to make arbitrary changes like people who need to justify their paychecks.
by brailsafe
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- Can anyone speak to whether the performance of the Settings app has been improved? In Seq and every version since they redid it in presumably SwiftUI, if you select one of the navigation panes and then hold either the up or down arrow keys to quickly navigate between them, something like a memory leak occurs due to (seemingly) launching all of the nested panes as separate apps (this is what appears to be the case in activity monitor) and the Settings app will start lagging until you fully quit and reopen.
by markdog12
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- Whoa, you can now search clipboard history. Go to Spotlight Search, Command+4. You'll get a list of entries, each with a copy button, and is searchable. Even shows the app it was copied in.
by joshstrange
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- I'm normally on about 1 year delay on upgrading macOS for a multitude of reasons. I might not wait the full year but something else will have to force me to upgrade within the first few months.
I'd heard from people who were running the betas that it's not ready and they are surprised Tahoe wasn't delayed.
No way I'm upgrading any time soon to Apple's least cared for OS with a change this big (and this untested).
- Email I sent to staff
Good Afternoon,
Apple released its new operating system today, macOS Tahoe. This is a full version upgrade (26.0) with a new look, feel, and many changes. At this time, I recommend NOT updating to Tahoe for the following reasons:
Stability: Version 26.0 is the first release and, like most “.0” versions, contains glitches that will take time to fix. Later versions (26.1, 26.2, etc.) are expected to address these issues.
Release Cycle: Apple now releases a new macOS every year instead of every two years. These initial yearly releases are often closer to “beta” products, and Apple typically patches problems over the first 6–8 weeks.
There is no real advantage to upgrading right now. It’s best to wait 6–8 weeks until the system stabilizes and then reevaluate.
How to Skip the Upgrade
When prompted, simply do not click “Upgrade Now.” This upgrade may pop up on your machine over the course of the next few days.
Close the upgrade window, or scroll down to select other updates.
For reference, macOS Sequoia (15.x) is now at version 15.7, which means it’s very stable and well-patched.
- Any actual interesting changes under the hood other than UI changes? I cant remember the last time macOS release that actually brings any useful feature I use.
- Read most of the comment, was hesitated. Then thought "it can't be that bad". Ok, it is that bad. I absolutely hate extra round corners and extra margin in the windows. Sigh.
by flenserboy
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- Apple had a chance to bring back taste when they got rid of Ive, but missed it entirely. The overly rounded windows, the weird amount of blank space, the lack of clarity in general — the only thing that makes sense is that middle managers brought this about.
edit: Things are even worse — they already made newer apps much more difficult to read, likely because they have been brought from mobile to desktop. Now fonts are even smaller in System Settings, for example. What are they even thinking?
by paulsmith
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- Aside from the Liquid Glass stuff, has anyone detailed the changes to the Unix bits of the OS? What's new, deprecated, moved, locked-down, etc. ... ?
by mind_orbit
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- Not gonna lie, it’s still ugly to me. But same story with every macOS - give it a few weeks and you forget about it and just use your Mac
by notsydonia
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- Had such a bad experience with Sonoma, multiple micro-glitches that stole time and focus, that I dropped back to Ventura and have been avoiding updates ever since. The weird thing is that despite numerous bugs being logged all over the place, the 'new features' updates from Apple OS didn't seem to address any of them. They were mostly weird gimmicky new add-ons that don't mean anything to a power-user.
I might be interested in trying Tahoe if they'd undone whatever the awful policy is that puts a tonne of unwanted apps and desktop pics etc into your desktop that cannot be removed. I don't want Apple News, the clock in the menu bar and even Airplay - I purchased the computer, why can't I have what I want on it without compulsory apps from Apple?
- The latest macOS updates have me pining for macOS Mojave. I really liked that release - first-class dark mode support that felt reasonably polished, it still had a "normal" Mac OS X style UI, 32-bit support if you wanted it, it was snappy even on my 3 year old 2015 MBPr, and I think it wouldn't look out of place on a modern M4 Mac even though it's a seven year old release.
by robinhood
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- First rule of MacOS upgrade: don't.
Second rule: wait for x.1 or x.2 releases, so it's more stable and most importantly, the dependencies you need get updated.
by RomanPushkin
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- Maybe it's new and controversial, but I like it. Honestly, I think there is something more about it. Like another Apple product that we're going to see in the future, like Apple glasses would work perfectly with this UI.
by zwilliamson
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- I’ve been using Omarchy (Arch+Hyprland) as my daily driver for over a month. It is faster, prettier and more efficient than macOS in my opinion. I have a Framework 16” on order. I can’t wait to get it.
- If there are enough OGs, they should recall Windows XP with all those bells and whistles AND those life-saving switch to "Windows Classic" that survived next three generations of Windows.
I personally pray for that "MacOS classic" switch... It's sad to enter that decay era for Apple where every next software upgrade for the device feels effectively as a hardware downgrade.
- The new approach they took is a disaster, technically and visually. This is a joke.
by zitterbewegung
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- Am I one of few people that doesn't have a big negative sentiment torwards Tahoe? I suspect that if it is this bad they will start making a point release to address liquid glass. I do agree though that there is a jarring look to the slabs of glass on glass for the layouts in the system. Another thing that sort of weirds me out is that the system preferences has the icons being loaded after the window is present and I have liked using spotlight for a much longer time. I have also been using Siri by typing in queries and the integration of the dynamic island into the menu bar is pretty great.
- The new UI is horrible. That’s it. No need to deep analysis.
- A small but important detail of Aqua was that the assumed light source was pointing straight down, whereas everybody else was usually using a 45 degrees angle. I wish Apple took a lesson from the old masters.
Also these colors make my eyes bleed. And the border radius is ridiculous.
- I've been using Tahoe since yesterday and so far I find the glass changes fine. I don't have any sort of accessibility requirements and I can understand how loss-of-contrast may impact folks but to me it feels fresh.
by aaronbrethorst
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- I've run every version of macOS since Mac OS X Public Beta. I'm pretty sure I'm going to skip Tahoe. macOS 15 Sequoia is great; why would I switch to something profoundly ugly and unpolished if everything will keep running on my current OS and Apple's liable to make macOS 27 look tolerable?
- I posted this before but again, this new OS from Apple is the deal breaker for me to buy any new devices from Apple again. And I’ll hold on the existing OS until Apple won’t provide any security updates anymore.
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I have to say, is AI image generation really the job of an operating system? I've also seen this sort of stuff on Pixel Android, it's now built into mspaint on Windows 11 and there's also copilot everywhere. Does anyone even use this stuff? It requires constant updates and maintenance to support newer models, in my experience it gets stale and outdated much more quickly. I think it would be better served by the user just opening their web browser to go to ChatGPT (or other service) which receives latest model upgrades first. Am I going crazy or is this just a horrible idea?
by mickgardner
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- What an ugly UI update. I usually don't mind too much about the changes in MacOS UI and visuals, but opening up Finder leaves me shocked that this actually got the green light. Who in their right mind looked at this and thought: "yep that's the future, it looks fantastic!".
- Long time Apple user advice: don't update before .1 version if you use your mac for important things.
- I'm not a fan of the forced border radius on maximized (but not full screen) apps
Other than that I tilt slightly towards the 'like it' side. Really like it on iOS
- Among all macOS apps and their weird choices, finder is the most enigmatic one.
The Recents tab sorts by Last Opened by default where I would expect to see the rencently added files first.
Sorting by another column will not add said column to the view.
Files from the Downloads folders seems to be excluded from Recents, or they take hours to be taken into account.
It does not show the current path, no button to go up the file tree, the only text input is behind this search button and it does not understand relative or full paths.
Well, thank god I have a terminal and an IDE at hand.
by Bondi_Blue
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- For a more granular features list: https://www.apple.com/os/pdf/All_New_Features_macOS_Tahoe_Se...
- I don't like things getting more and more round (quite often having custom css with `* { border-radius: 0px !important; }`) and they are going even worse with it.
I don't like transparency - it's flashy but in overwhelming majority of cases is just a gimmick distraction (like transparent terminals on linux)
Sticking to Squoia
- Writing this comment from my FrameWork laptop with AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 96GB Ram, 4TB Storage, that I got for $4k. Running Fedora with KDE. How much would I need to pay Apple to get a laptop with this much ram?
The day I got my only Apple device, an ipad, only to know they will kill my browser download as soon as I switch to a different app, it became my last. I don't want to pay a company only to be subject to their decision of what I can and cannot run on my machine.
If I vote for that with my wallet, I deserve it.
by The_President
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- Meanwhile in iOSland I am hesitant to update an iPhone SE 2nd gen from 16 to 18 due to the apparant lack of option to customize the charging limit. To anyone with an engineer mind, this seems like a non-implementation that would have an excuse behind it if it were ever exposed. I also wonder if the Personal Hotspot wifi bug ever will get fixed for old hardware, or will the speculation remain of another service changing its mode to promiscuous momentarily for the sake of more data collection.
- I'm not quite sure what to make of Liquid Glass, I developed an allergy of sorts to the term while listening to the keynote.
Any 'relevant' new features for power users / cmd line geeks that you know of?
by agrippanux
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- These extreme rounded corners are super triggering my desktop OCD
Text on frosted glass over other text is really hard to read
We need an option to turn these “improvements” off
FWIW my system does feel more snappy and the improvements to Spotlight are nice
- First macOS version I’m holding off on. Just too unusable.
- To be honest I just installed last night and the only significant change I notice are the round corners. And now the email app have a progress indicator.
Other than that is just windows vista visuals, but not as shit as windows vista.
- The pixel above the menu bar Weather widget isn't clickable. Sound, wifi, battery, Control Center, clock are just fine.
Let that one get under your skin.
by system7rocks
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- My first impressions? It's fine.
It will take a bit of getting used to, but there are some design elements that actually do make sense.
by curvaturearth
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- I still hurting from the crappy System Settings. Please Apple, make System Settings better... It's a mess
by joduplessis
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- If Apple stopped at the over-saturated/rounded-corners, it would have been a decent iteration on something established (and very much not broken). I realise the transparent icons are optional - but it now looks like a budget Android theme.
by MobileVet
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- The part that I am so tired of is the ‘we are the best at this and this is amazing’ pitch that comes with every release. Never mind that this release’s design ‘language’ DIRECTLY conflicts with things they used to say ‘never do that’.
So what changed exactly? Change is understandable but this is a full 180.
- floating anything was verboten
- accessibility was paramount
- clarity was prioritized
How did this release come about??
by robin_reala
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- A reminder, if you dislike the liquid glass look, that going into System settings / Accessibility / Display and toggling “Increase contrast” gets you a properly nice design with actual borders and solid backgrounds. 100% recommended.
- It’s butt-ugly, but I find the usability better. Previously everything was so white that I found it difficult on occasion to distinguish between windows above and below. The heavier drop shadows and rounded corners are actually quite helpful
by BatteryMountain
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- If anyone here feel aggravated by both Liquid Glass and whatever Windows 11 calls their UI, give KDE a try (Fedora is pretty stable with it). After tweaking a few things (display dpi, theme, wallpaper) - its a very coherent experience & information dense. You can do 95% of your computing in this environment. After getting used to KDE, it will be hard to go back to windows or macos.
by unboxingelf
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- Who is macOS designed for? I assume a non negligible customer base are software professionals and this iOSification of the desktop is borderline hostile. I don’t get it.
- Open up the Calendar app on macOS Tahoe. Look in the upper right at the time zone selector. It is left justified to a fault, leaving a very awkward amount of space between it and the expand arrow/flyout arrows.
- they need to bring Scott Forstall or someone Bertrand Serlet-esque back, and a designer who isn't Alan Dye
- I wonder if they realized they're recycling the codename from the old BSD version.
- For me the main thing is that search is now more prominent for a lot of apps (this is even more true on iOS). It used to be that we had to go to the top on iOS to get search but now it's always at the bottom near the fingers.
- > And Vehicle Motion Cues help reduce motion sickness in moving vehicles.
I love that the copy was directly copy pasted from iOS copy. I don't think vehicle motion sickness is a big concern with macOS
by hermitcrab
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- Does anyone know what Qt 5 or Qt 6 applications look like on macOS Tahoe?
- This might be relevant again: Apple's Liquid Glass: When Aesthetics Beat Function (https://www.maxvanijsselmuiden.nl/liquid-glass)
- Looks horrible on non-hdpi monitors
- Reminds me of Windows Vista.
by Aaronstotle
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- I wish Apple would skip yearly macOS releases, there is no need.
- Not a fan of the new Safari design. I used to like it for its compact and minimalist look, but now the address bar and tab bar feel like they take up more space than they should.
- The key question - now that Liquid Glass is a reality, will Tim Cook lose his job like Ballmer did over Windows 8 metro design?
by coneonthefloor
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- The GUI of an OS has never concerned me. Seems like a red flag when the main selling point is a slight bit of transparency.
by christophilus
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- Just upgraded my wife’s laptop and my iPhone. It’s fine. I think her use (she lives in the browser) and my iPhone use (calls, camera, browser) don’t really reveal anything terrible. It’s kind of a dumb gimmick, but it’s mostly fine so far. It would annoy me if a UI that I frequently used “upgraded” to this, though.
- I had thought Tahoe was the first version to drop Intel CPU support, but it looks like it will be the last version to still support Intel Macs.
- I'm on the beta right now and a "<<" icon has appeared.
It's embarrassing that it took them that long but they have in fact fixed it.
- i really wish they didn't give up on stage manager. every beta i would look if they fixed the opening behavior to open a new application in the same stage :/ but stage manager seems like it would have potential to fix window management on the mac without needing rectangle, yabai, alt tab etc
- This looks like their Windows Vista.
by supr_strudl
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- I like it. There's hardly any difference for me.
- The juxtaposition in the marketing speak is ridiculous.
"...all with a whole lot less effort."
Seriously Apple, a whole lot less?
- I can't remember the last time I was excited for a macOS release. This time again there is nothing I'm looking forward in this new release.
- I'd like to see the presentation they used internally to sell the liquid glass aeshetic. I bet it is sillier than the famous Pepsi logo redesign document.
by DavidPiper
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- Windows XP had Theme Settings. I never used them, but at least they allowed you to choose.
- Is it bad that my primary motivation for considering an upgrade is getting my notes as Markdown?
by philipallstar
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- > More you. Shines through.
It just sounds like a shampoo commercial.
- This is the first time I've ever seen a macOS update and not seen a single feature worth bothering to upgrade over. Is there anything developer-facing? I don't use any Apple ecosystem stuff and this is all that AFAICT
- Anytime a UI redesign comes with bullshit abstract designer justifications ("a translucent new material that reflects and refracts its surroundings", etc) you know it's bad.
by GrumpyGoblin
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- Widget appearance is tied to *icon appearance. Grumble grumble. I want clear for my widgets but default for my dock and other icons. Too bad so sad me I guess.
edit: replaced dock with icon, because it affects much more than just dock
- I've grown so used to Apple shipping buggy software that I wait a year or more before upgrading my mac to a major version. I do all the minor releases and security patches, of course.
- are they giving any hints that in high vis/accessibility modes this will be fully disabled? I've been largely insulated from changes like this for a while by that, if that were to change however, more drastic measures may be needed
- I really dislike how everything MUST become rounded to be "more user-friendly and fluid". The UI looks awful and I will probably never be upgrading.
- Sure, sure... The UI is a waste.
But: 24-bit color support in Terminal.app!
Finally.
(Next year, macOS Ukiah will use Apple Intelligence: just describe the UI you want in Spotlight, and macOS will vibe-code it up for you.)
by filchermcurr
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- I'm trying to give it a chance but it's kind of rough.
- File save dialog has a massively reduced width sidebar. It has a resize handle. But the resize handle does nothing. This is the most infuriating thing for me because all of my sidebar locations are cut off.
- M4 Pro Macbook Pro and I'm now experiencing stuttering when scrolling.
- Why is everything in Spotlight enormous?! Was it always like this and I just seemingly never noticed?
Otherwise, if you 'reduce transparency' and turn off 'tint window background with wallpaper color' (both of which I had done already anyway), things are decidedly nicer visually.
- Is that call screening example a new feature or something I can do now that I didn't know about? That's something I've missed since switching from a Pixel to an iPhone last year.
- Will I be able to disable the glass effect so there isn't any load on the system just for the ui to exist?
- It's like every macos release. The internet rushes to upgrade to it and then tries to be the first to sh*t on it. Nothing to see here. Winning.
by AHTERIX5000
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- It's not as bad as the first previews but ugly nonetheless and overall accessibility nightmare.
All I hope is that the design language stays contained in Apple ecosystem and does not spread.
- I feel like Joey Tribbiani with Rachel’s Traditional English Trifle, because I like it. iOS, macOS, ipadOS, tvOS.
I like the new feature in tvOS to see incoming calls on the tv.
- Looks like they're putting an AR UI in a Desktop
- This update is hideous. I'm already regretting the upgrade. So many design flaws that it's too distracting to use.
by lazycouchpotato
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- Updated to iPadOS 26 on my iPad 9.
It's so laggy on the home screen now. Absolutely ruined the poor thing.
by samgranieri
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- I think I’m going to stick with the previous version of macOS on my work laptop until I’m forced to upgrade.
- This is unrelated, but in Indonesian language, "Tahoe" is a word for tofu but spelled the old way
- Worse.
I'm ok with most of it but let us get rid of the stupid rounded corners. Apple clearly does great HW and it does great systems. OTOH, its UI is faddish.
- How has Apple still not addressed many basic UI issues, such as menu bar icons disappearing behind the notch with no way to see them?
by diebeforei485
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- I usually wait a couple weeks for the bugs to be worked out before installing.
by ivraatiems
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- Reminder that if you have an old Mac, and you'd like to run more recent versions of macOS on it, you can do so with Dortania OpenCore (https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/).
They don't have Tahoe support yet, but almost certainly will in the coming months.
I highly recommend doing this instead of throwing away a 5 or 6 year old computer as ewaste!
(Windows and Linux also work on Intel Macs.)
by dcchambers
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- Screenshots of this OS sure are...something. I'm gonna hold off on upgrading. Maybe they'll tone it down next year.
- They didn't even fix the horizontal resizing in the Settings app.
Sigh.
- Tim Cook has no taste
- how to change this enormous windows radius to something reasonable?
by heavyset_go
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- Has anyone gotten this running in with QEMU and kvm?
- I'm baffled by the hate. So far, it's just some nice looking cosmetic changes.
All entirely inconsequential -- I've seen nothing yet that will affect my workflows in any way.
- This is a really rough UI update to ship out of Apple.
I don't want to use "the worst UI thing they've ever done" lightly, but it is hard to think of something that feels this unfinished and hard to use. Why are none of the corner radii consistent? This is literally the sort of thing Apple's entire reputation is built on getting right! It's like an amateur hour Linux skin.
by ObscureMind
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- This is the Windows 7 version of MacOS
by steeleyespan
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- Looks like a niche Gnome theme that’s trying to clone a MacOS look.
I don’t think it’s that bad, nothing to get upset over - but yeah sort of like candy iMac aesthetic.
- This seems like a relatively minor update.
- I don't want the low contrast glassy stuff or even bigger corner radiuses on my iPhone or mac, so I disabled automatic OS updates for the first time.
When I updated to iOS 18.7, it automatically re-activated iOS updates! Fuck you very much, Apple!
So be warned, if you don't want to update, check your settings.
- It's good
by trumbitta2
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- So ugly and pointless it hurts. Same for iOS 26.
- Okay that seems pretty nice. A lot of small improvements to day-to-day use. This is what I want from a desktop OS update.
by semiinfinitely
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- I will not be installing this one!
by WuxiFingerHold
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- I hate to say it, but Windows is much more productive than MacOS for the usually tasks you perform on an OS (with GUI, both have CLIs, but I'm not talking about them). I'm using both at work all day long switching between them. When reflecting why, I think it comes down to windows management and the file explorer (vs finder).
- I hope they'll acknowledge what they've done and fix most of this nonsense. I like macOS how it is right now, and I switched from Linux partly for this. I always wonder why don't they just add new stuff based on user feedback?
- Is there anywhere to find a comprehensive list of updates made "Under the hood"? Sure the new UI is cool and all, but what are they doing to make the OS better? In a previous life I was a mac administrator and every update, apple would remove some binary and suddenly we couldn't natively make calls to LDAP or something.
by somelamer567
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- The poor application scripting story on macOS has made me grumpy for the last few releases of macOS.
AppleScript was never good, but the tooling has been left to rot and other language bindings steadily deprecated. And it seems it has not improved in Tahoe. I know the product manager of scripting for macOS ran it into the ground before being let go, but I've seen no discernible improvements.
For a platform touted as the first choice for technical users, this is a really poor showing.
- Looking at this webpage I realise I am absolutely no longer part of Apple’s demographic for MacOS. I couldn’t care less about any of these new features. I was hoping the UI would be improved but it’s just a diabolical clusterfuck.
Hard pass.
- I hate it. Everything has become larger and weirder and uglier? When I reboot the machine the time on the lock screen is in liquid glass but the date isn't?
It reminds me of Cydia Themes
by deafpolygon
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- I suppose I'm in the minority, but I do like the new changes. It's refreshing, and looks good. Most issues can be tweaked away if you desire that. (disabling transparency or removing tint window with background wallpaper)
What I want is my single row Safari address+tabbar back - why did they take it out? And where the hell is the newly refreshed Terminal.app?
- Ios26 isn’t bad. Installing it on my non work MacBook.
- Am I the only one here who thinks liquid glass is pretty? I like it.
More than that, I love the new Spotlight features, and the ability to remove apps from the menu bar without installing Ice (or the legacy Bartender).
- Wake me up when it's 26.1 o'clock.
- I really hope spotlight didn't just get ruined
- the launcher is amazing
day one upgrade here nothing broke, im very happy so far
m3max mbpro 14
by triyambakam
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- Disappointed with the background image. I was expecting a similar treatment like with Sequoia and previous versions with a beautiful and inspiring scene in nature. Instead it is vaguely inspired by water?
- I love how when apple could offer nothing more, their ui became nothing, and a celebration of blankness
by basisword
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- A lot of the focus here is on the design (obviously). It took me a while to get used to it. But there are a lot of really great improvements in this release that make it worth it. Spotlight gets big updates. Live activities and notifications syncing from your phone. Journal. Music app has been massively updated and redesigned. Phone app. And surprisingly it doesn’t feel like a launch release - definitely less buggy than previous efforts.
- The new UI is incredibly disappointing, it looks like an old Android theme from 2005.
by burnt-resistor
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- I, for one, am going to wait a much longer while before installing this.
The internets suggests the following disables glass effects:
defaults write com.apple.universalaccess reduceTransparency 1
- https://www.apple.com/v/os/c/images/macos/highlights/mac_pho...
Two different fonts (Mac vs iOS) for the same data display?
And replacing all humans by AI avatars, to make it easier for spambots to impersonation people?
- Running it already. Seems pretty solid. No compatibility issues. UI changes are fairly ok. Glad they got rid of launcher and merged it into spotlight.
- Things I like: reintroducing a little bit of 3D/skeumorphism. I'm sick of flat. Also the Music and Podcasts app changes aren't bad. Haven't tried the iPhone/desktop tighter integration but it looks interesting. Not UI, but it seems like my wifi is faster, but I could also be nuts. Maybe a driver update?
Things that are "meh": the "apps" thing that replaces the previous launch pad, the translucency, the "dark" icon theme.
Things I don't like: stop wasting my f'ing screen real estate. Stop it with the unnecessary whitespace and the f'ing thicc menu bar. This is a desktop/laptop and it's for real work. It's also ugly. Speaking of ugly, I count several different window corner radii. Why do Windows need gigantically rounded corners?
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by back2dafucha
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by jazzyjackson
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- Have they got any further on their roadmap to only allowing apps from the Mac store in this release?
by fair_enough
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- Shwiggity shwagg, the GA release hath come!
Can't wait to write a beamline control application for crystallography on this sumbitch!
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