by liendolucas
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- What truly suprises me about BSDs is their simplicity and low footprint, OpenBSD being gold standard.
I've been playing with `byve` the last two weeks (I highly recommend vermaden's blog for anyone interested in BSDs and obviously the handbooks of each project) and I'm seriously thinking not doing a dual boot Linux install again. On my old x230 (which is running FreeBSD) I will be installing OpenBSD just to become more familiar with it.
I still don't get why just after installing Debian `top` shows me around 200 proceses. BSDs? Under 20. Other thing that pisses me off is for example how polluted (at least on Ubuntu) mountpoints are. Package management is also fragmented on Linux, while on BSDs is either a flavour of `pkg` or ports.
Perhaps I should still try more minimalistic Linux distributions, just don't know which are good candidates
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and still recommend it heavily to non-tech people around me but when you taste a BSD is hard to go back.
by president_zippy
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- I'm impressed that they still maintain PA-RISC support even though HP discontinued that architecture in 2008.
They maintain all these architectures in such a small, consolidated codebase with such minimal (if any) bloat.
Their built-in httpd is far and away the best experience I ever had setting up a static file server for my local network, and I can't think of many times where I would ever need anything I couldn't do with the built-in FastCGI support.
I'm also pleasantly surprised by how well Chicago95 (a Windows 95-style UI based on xfce) works on OpenBSD, even though the author never intended to run it on anything but xubuntu. I wouldn't recommend trying that unless you're willing to roll up your sleeves, but the payoff definitely justifies the elbow grease if you like that look and feel better than xenodm, XFCE, or GNOME.
- OpenBSD 7.8 release artwork by "Apsephion"
https://www.openbsd.org/images/Terraodontidae.png
https://www.openbsd.org/images/puffy78.gif
https://www.openbsd.org/78.html
by prmoustache
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- What is the status on FS journaling/softupdates? I used to like openBSD but it kind of disappeared of my life once they removed support for softupdates a couple of years ago. I am not so fond of those fsck and lost data we used to have on an occasional basis after an unexpected hard shutdown due to a power cut in the 90's.
Are they any new FS supported nowadays?
- Has anyone benchmarked TCP performance now that it's outside of the global kernel lock?
I wonder how useful this will be for the modest but still multicore systems used for firewalls.
- Ooh, looks like the Raspberry Pi 5 is now supported!
by cyberpunk
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- > TCP stack is now running in parallel on multiple CPUs.
This should be a nice improvement for my firewalls, some testing on the cards today me thinks.
by yellowapple
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- Congrats on another release. Upgrading my machines went without a hitch :)
- Connecting to wifi on OpenBSD terminal is wonder simple, one reflection to the meticulous work behind the system.
by razighter777
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- Great work from the OpenBSD team. Happily suprised to the continued commitment to support new hardware.
- I run OpenBSD on two old laptops at home, two virtual machines, and one old former SOHO router/firewall appliance. So far I've upgrade all but one laptop, and once again I am impressed how painless the process is these days. And how reliable. One laptop has been running OpenBSD since 6.8-ish, and it's never given me any problems.
Thank you to everyone who made this possible!
- I'm surprised seeing improvements in Suspend/Hibernate support.
I've used OpenBSD on laptops before and it was _fine_. I thought they primarily target servers. This feels like laptop specific improvements. Perhaps to the benefits only to those developing OpenBSD.
- What is the filesystem story in OpenBSD? Anything CoW/snapshot'able on the horizon?
- SEV and CC in general looks interesting seeing the slides. I hadn't heard of it yet.
Someone more knowledgeable than me will say if these encrypted VMs are also protected from bugged modules within the SoC or on the bus besides being protected from the hypervisor.
It also seems that they are adding inter-core features but I don't know whether they are related to removing locks within the kernel, embedded applications, or if they are moving to micro-kernel internally.
by saagarjha
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- > On Apple variants, enter DDB when exuart(4) detects a BREAK.
Is this OpenBSD on Apple silicon?
- The most compact, minimalist general purpose OS out there by far. Tiny memory footprint and loaded with network services built-in.
Linux has become so bloated its users can't in good conscience make fun of Microsoft anymore, they are worse.
Debian refuses to install with less than 512MB RAM, the text only installer will choke with less than that, it's pathetic. That's a console-only install, no GUI.
- I'm a long-time Linux user, but have always been drawn to OpenBSD, in large part due to the team's philosophy on software. I wish I had the willpower to switch to it as my main OS, but unfortunately, my workflow is too dependent on popular software and cutting-edge hardware, which historically don't work too well on OpenBSD. I don't blame the team for it—in fact I applaud their unwavering commitment to their values. It's what makes the system great, after all.
Regardless, I'm grateful that everyone can still benefit from the great set of tools that were started, and most still maintained, in the OpenBSD project. OpenSSH, PF, tmux, etc. They're a beacon of light in the software world.
by Mr_Minderbinder
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- > Make vi(1) 'p' command paste in the correct place.
I am really surprised to see something seemingly so simple in the changelog at this stage of development.
- When I was in the college in the early 2000s, I had a friend who ran OpenBSD. He always sang its praises, mostly because it was the most secure operating system.
I tried a bunch of Linux Distributions and FreeBSD before mostly settling on MacOS, but never actually got around to running it.
Glad to see OpenBSD is still being actively developed.
- I switched my firewall to freebsd because of performances. I wonder how this release performs with mellanox cards.
I still have a preference for OpenBSD.
- I currently run a PC Engines APU2 as my home firewall/router. Been doing so for years and I really like it, yet I am still an OpenBSD newb. When I ran a sysupgrade from 7.5 -> 7.6, I completely ran out of space on /usr and the upgrade utterly failed. Had to reinstall full system at that point. The issue is that my hard drive is very small and the auto format utility only allocates 1.8G to /usr. Right now, I currently have 1.5G out of 1.8G in use. On the OpenBSD mailing lists, a user asked a question that is virtually identical to the situation I am in – they are worried that if they do another sysupgrade, it will fail and they will need to reinstall. A potential solution was proposed here [0] but the process seems somewhat complex for an OpenBSD newb like me. Could anyone point me in the right direction to guides that would detail the process, which the person on the mailing list describes, that basically involves deleting /usr/obj and /usr/src and allocating that ‘saved space’ back to /usr? Thanks.
[0] https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=175952911527704&w=2
- You know you're in deep when the OpenBSD release logs start to read like normal english...
by throw0101c
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- See also perhaps HTML release notes on their website (and not the CDN):
* https://www.openbsd.org/78.html
- Well I know what I will be doing, I read the upgrade guide:
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade78.html
It is even easier then last time, no manual file removal.
Easy as pie, maybe I should bake a pie during the upgrade :)
by ChrisArchitect
0 subcomment
- [dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45660634
- Must OS maintenance be this laborious?
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