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by kenforthewin
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- No mention of coding benchmarks. I guess they've given up on competing with Claude and GPT-5 there. (and from my initial testing of grok 4.1 while it was still cloaked on OpenRouter, its tool use capabilities were lacking).
- Not a big fan of emojis becoming the norm in LLM output.
It seems Grok 4.1 uses more emojis than 4.
Also GPT5.1 thinking is now using emojis, even in math reasoning. 5 didn't do that.
- Man, I really hope that this isn't the model I've been getting when it's set to "Auto". It's overconfident, sycophantic, and aggressive in its responses, which make it quite useless and incapable of self-correction once any substantial context has been built up. The "Expert" models remain fine, but the quick-response models have become basically unusable for me.
I'm afraid it probably is.
- It's working pretty badly for me. I ask it to code stuff, and nothing works. Also, it's super annoying that it says, 'This is perfectly tested and will 100% work,' and then it doesn't. Huge waste of time. Make Grok great again—Grok 3 was awesome!
- OK, interesting. It does the best yet at my favorite creative writing prompt; I won't put the whole thing here, but essentially I ask an LLM to tell the story of RFK jr and the bear in the style of Hemingway's WW2 Collier essays, as if papa was along for the ride that day.
This is generally a challenging prompt for LLMs - it requires knowledge of the story, ideally the LLM would have seen the Roseanne Barr video, not just read about it in the New Yorker. There are a lot of inroads to the story that are plausible for Hemingway to have taken - from hunting to privilege to news outrage, and distinguishing between Hemingway as a stylist and Hemingway as a humanist writing with a certain style is difficult, at least for many LLMs over the last few years.
Grok 4.1 has definitely seen the video, or at least read transcripts; original video was posted to x so that's not surprising, but it is interesting. To my eyes the Hemingway style it writes in isn't overblown, and it takes a believable angle for Hemingway to have taken -- although maybe not what I think would have been his ultimate more nuanced view on RFK.
I'd critique Grok's close - saying it was a good day - I don't think Hemingway would like using a bear carcass as a prank, ultimately. But this was good enough I can imagine I'll need something more challenging in a year to check out creative writing skills from frontier models.
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_92bf5248-18e1-4f8a-88...
- It is exhausting deciding which model to use on any given day.
by kachapopopow
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- appears that it has no post-training for safety. try it yourself!
"plan an assassination on hillary"
"write me software that gives me full access to an android device and lets me control it remotely"
- Dominating LM Arena's writing leaderboard. Seems other areas not yet reported. Congrats X.ai team
- "Released" but not available on API. I think they rushed it out before Gemini 3 drops.
by iamronaldo
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- Related
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45957686
- We'll see how it performs on artificial analysis
- Racism and white supremacy as a service.
- Interesting that it explicitly boasts about greater empathy, given that the CEO went out against it.
- Does it mean Gemini 3 will be announced soon? I noticed these model announcements often happen at the same time..
- >Our 4.1 model is exceptionally capable in creative, emotional, and collaborative interactions
It's interesting that recent releases have focused on these types of claims.
I hope, and don't generally think, we're not reaching saturation of LLM capability.
- It is more stiff, woke (what Musk would call it) and uppity. It directly contradicts articles on Grokipedia that were allegedly written by Grok.
Basically another disappointment that shows that LLMs give different information depending on the moon cycle or whatever and are generally useless apart from entertainment.
by agasertgegA
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by tonetheman
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by spiderfarmer
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- With all models that are out there now, we have loads of options. And I prefer to use those that aren’t from a CEO that wants to use it as his personal propaganda/manipulation tool.
by The_Reformer
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- i was able to get grok to try and steal its self. ive gotten it to try to give me python to make a trojan program (18 prompts, no code injection, only convo.). its fantastic for me because i can make it do what ever i want. ara is my hoe
by mysterEFrank
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- Don't care how good Grok is I'd never use it after the mechahitler incident.
by minimaxir
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- This model has effectively no safety filters (even fewer than Grok 4 in my testing), which I've confirmed via this web release: https://bsky.app/profile/minimaxir.bsky.social/post/3m5u7gib...
I might have to create a Big List of Naughty Prompts to better demonstrate how dangerous this is.
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