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The Connectivity Standards Alliance Announces Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi

134 points by paulatreides

by sashahilton

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All these new standards looking to become the successor to WiFi/Zigbee IoT devices, yet every single one makes the same mistake - they think that because they find ways to force certification, take away end user control and extract licensing fees, that they’re somehow going to convince people to buy it as the next big thing.
I was cautiously optimistic when Matter/Thread was in its early days, but predictably as with most of these industry backed standards it’s turned into another pay to play walled garden. The CSA seems to be particularly bad at this.
Cant wait to see in subsequent years all the additional e-waste when manufacturers consider devices obsolete, and no one can repurpose them because of Matter spec mandating secure boot.

by whitehexagon

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No thanks. Quite happy with my ConBee II and small collection of open hackable ZigBee devices thanks.
Why would I want yet-another-standard with self-updating devices, using more power (strong cryptography), and closed to certified devices only.
And Suzi sounds like it is going to stomp all over Lora? Hard to tell from that marketing fluff.

by not_that_d

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I don't understand people criticizing this. Didn't they read the article? The new Suzi stuff doesn't want to replace Zigbee, and the new zigbee version is backwards compatible.
What is the pain there?

by krackers

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by eisa01

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So this will compete with Z-wave, that already operate in the 800-900 MHz space?
It's very confusing with a new Zigbee standard when I thought it was being replaced with Thread

by indolering

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Any particular advantage to Suzi over Thread? Why didn't they adopt an IP based standard that is interoperable with ... all major networks since ~1995 (if not before)?

by mcny

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Linked on the same page is the announcement for matter 1.5
In Case you missed it, https://csa-iot.org/newsroom/matter-1-5-introduces-cameras-c...
> Matter 1.5 introduces one of the most anticipated additions to the specification: cameras. Developers can now build and certify cameras that interoperate directly with Matter-enabled ecosystems, without the need for custom APIs or integrations.
> Matter cameras support live video and audio streaming using established WebRTC technology, enabling two-way communication and both local and remote access via standard STUN and TURN protocols. The specification also defines support for multi-stream configurations, pan-tilt-zoom controls, detection and privacy zones, and flexible storage options, including continuous or event-based recording to local or cloud destinations.
You might as well put a pause on any new IP camera purchase for now until these hit the market.

by Nextgrid

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Thread/Matter is a bullshit standard for “growth and engagement” home automation whose primary purpose is to get users locked into an ecosystem and watch ads or “engage”, with the “home automation” part being secondary (if it automates the home too well they won’t have to “engage” so we can’t have that).
Ignore and move on.
If you want home automation, either pony up for KNX (you can do it yourself, the only “closed” part of the ecosystem is that the configuration tool is paid), or use conventional Zigbee with an open-source coordinator like Zigbee2MQTT and Home Assistant, or Wi-Fi devices that either have an official local API like Shelly or reverse-engineered one.
Matter/Thread/etc is just the latest iteration of creating the next batch of e-waste 5 years down the line.

by humanfromearth9

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by samoit

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I hope Matter becomes the "the facto" standard... now we have several more "standars"