by throw0101c
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- Proxmox (and XCP-ng?) seems to be "the" (?) popular alternative to VMware after Broadcom's private equity-fuel cash grab.
(Perhaps if you're a Microsoft shop you're looking at Hyper-V?)
by hendersoon
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- So with support for OCI container images, does this mean I can run docker images as LXCs natively in proxmox? I guess it's an entirely manual process, no mature orchestration like portainer or even docker-compose, no easy upgrades, manually setting up bind mounts, etc. It would be a nice first step.
by SteveNuts
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- The only thing missing making Proxmox difficult in traditional environment is a replacement for VMware's VMFS (cluster aware VM file system).
Lots and lots of organizations already have SAN/storage fabric networks presenting block storage over the network which was heavily used for VMware environments.
You could use NFS if your arrays support it, but MPIO block storage via iscsi is ubiquitous in my experience.
- Watching hypervisors slowly improve over the last few years has been amazing. They aren't quite to the point that I will install them under any new hardware I buy and then put my daily driver OS on top, but they are very close. I think a strong focus on creating 'the OS under your OS' experience seamless could open up a lot more here.
- I've always just clean-installed then copied the containers/vms using vzdump and pct restore/qmrestore
I learned stuff like this years ago with upgrades to debian/ubuntu/etc - upgrading a distribution is a mess, and I've learned not to trust it.
- 15-20 years ago this wouldn't have been a company. It would have been a strong but informal open collaboration where
smart and just people funded by various entities around the world kept it running.
Then the opportunity to get rich by offering an open source product combined with closed source extras+support was invented. I don't like this new world.
Edit: Somewhere along the line, we also lost the concept of having a sysadmin/developer person working at like a municipality contributring like 20% of their time towards maintenance of such projects. Invaluable when keeping things running.
by ryandrake
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- Somehow, their web developer managed to break scrolling on Safari, so I am unable to navigate the linked site. If anyone else was looking for a list of what has changed in recent releases, it can be found at https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap
- Related ongoing thread:
Adventures in upgrading Proxmox - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45981666 - Nov 2025 (10 comments)
- Still no way to use clound-init for LXCs (apparently). But upgrading from 9.0 on my four servers went fine, zero issues (including ZFS).
- What is this "application containers" BS, just add native docker stack support. Most folks in the self hosting community already deploy nested dockers in LXCs, just add native support so we can cut out the middle man and squeeze out that indirection.
- Been waiting to update from v8. Time might be right now
- Nah. Incus.
Sorry, but I bought Proxmox 7, but it is not comparable. Incus does everything (and more) with better interface, WAY better reliability, and also not like a hundred EUR or whatever. (100 EUR is fine with me if better, but not if not better...)
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