by devilsdata
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- Is it possible that this phenomenon is specific to people with those mental illnesses? A wider general population study resulted in the inverse effect:
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/15/6/1354
I only did a postgraduate degree, so I don't have the practice reading scientific studies to determine which is true. Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in?
- I’m rightfully dubious of studies like this. Too many variables. They stated what they controlled for, but it wasn’t all that much, and doesn’t have any clue at all mechanism. For all we know it could be that people who drink coffee are less stressed and it’s stress that ages you. Or people who drink coffee work outside less. Or own more frogs. I dunno.
Just annoyed that studies like this get so much attention compared to studies that provide more value.
- My complete layman’s theory is because it acts as an appetite suppressant and calories consumed is a strong indicator of cell turnover and aging.
- Since PCs became strong enough to analyse a few thousand rows of a spreadsheet, a lot of such observational (meta) analyses popped up linking an arbitrary environmental factor with a catchy target (death or well being). With such, they imply but never admit someone could hack his whole health status with a simple intervention, which obviously is not valid for any random subject. Such studies I categorise in click baity science, as they profoundly seek public attention.
- The study doesn't seem to try to distinguish cause and effect. It may be that people who feel better are more likely to go for coffee. That issue comes up quite often in alcohol studies - if you plot alcohol consumption against health the people who drink quite a lot are amongst the healthiest but the effect there is pretty much that drinking is fun but you have to be healthy to take it.
- Direct link to study: https://mentalhealth.bmj.com/content/28/1/e301700
- As someone formally diagnosed with one of these mental illnesses, I can confidently say that coffee triggers a beneficial reaction to my illness as well as to other health-adjoint mechanisms in my body. To me, drinking coffee is like breathing air or eating food, and to go without it means symptom flare-ups.
- That title smells of p-hacking
by stopbulying
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- Should people be unequally denied caffeinenated coffee on the basis of medical status as determined by a physician they must pay?
What about decaf only; 0.3% coffee?
Is decaf linked to slower biological aging, too?
- I wonder if what seems like much higher margins in coffee allow for more articles like this. While I want what they are saying to be true, I wish I did not have to pay $15.00 for a 26 ounce can of coffee.
- Liking coffee linked to ...
by low_tech_punk
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- Is it possible that the coffee drinkers have more social interaction with the barista and others? It's unclear from the paper if they eliminated the confounding factors around coffee drinking.
by nrhrjrjrjtntbt
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- Due to caffiene or something else?
by kuipferings
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- 3-4 cups of coffee is the exact amount you need to get through a workday, and only lower class types drink instant coffee.
All of these studies are hot garbage, hopelessly confounded, the biggest scam in science is "controlling for".
Do an RCT and watch the coffee magic evaporate.
by empressplay
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- Without any documentation of actual caffeine consumption this study is completely worthless.
by jmonty900
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- I sure liked the first half of this title.
by ekjhgkejhgk
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- If I had severe mental illness I'd be immortal by now.
- Lots of coffee related articles reaching the front page recently.
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- > within the NHS recommended limit
Over the NHS recommended limit is better than zero caffeine for everyone. If their limit is correct is in question
Whether "those with severe mental illness" get more benefit seems unlikely biologically. But like everyone coffee is good for you.
The only point of research like this, since we know coffee is good, is finding the mechanisms. But it's highly open to p-hacking/experimental error, which is how universities work now. You should default to this is citation farming.
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by renewiltord
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- Even the ones born not on Mondays between 0700 and 1100?
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