- > The CEO of the American tech company is a former cyber specialist from an elite unit of the Israeli army, as are several other members of its top management.
This is about Unit 8200? The 'cybersecurity' unit that Israelis can join instead of doing their mandatory military service on the gun? I think this acquisition could indeed be problematic, but this seems like a weird framing. The article could give more context than that.
by debarshri
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- I know a thing or two about zivver as i used to hangout with an early eng who was a scala dev.
Idea was end to end encryption. So technically, the new org should not have access to customer data. Company hit gold in the netherlands during covid whe reports had to sent out to users digitally and was always encrypted in EU due to regulations.
It could be different behind the scene. It does not look good for the netherlands where digital sovereignty is the key topic these days.
by engineerhead
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- Pretty concerning. Even if a service is EU-based, a foreign acquisition can expose sensitive data to other jurisdictions.
- Is there any way to opt out? Or did European Comision just make a package deal without asking its populace for some reason?
by ricardo81
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- American tech companies have been pushing the needle on privacy ever since Google. Then Facebook. They've gradually normalised that privacy does not exist, all for their own capital gain.
There are European alternatives but they need support.
IMHO it requires conscious choices by European citizens to choose more carefully which online services they dedicate their time and money to. Or expect unintended consequences.
- this page forces you to create an account. Just delete the "quickSubscribe" class in the html and remove the popup to te able to scroll for free.
by unyttigfjelltol
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- TL;DR: An EU health data firm run by ex-military cryptographers offers a web portal for encrypting documents, which inherently exposes unencrypted documents to the company and US national security laws. The media outlet incidentally also doubts the trustworthiness of military veterans from Israel.
Even following the "if there's smoke there's fire" model, unclear there's a strong scent of "smoke" here. One could write a similar guilt-by-historical-association article concerning anyone, in the same position, really. Obviously if you're uploading a file to a 3d party website, the vendor has some technical access, this should be warned.
- Archive link: https://archive.ph/Se55J
- I used to get multiple Zivver messages a week from the health providers I work with. However, I haven't received a single one since the announcement of the takeover a while ago.
- this article forces you to create an account, just delete the "quickSubscribe" class in the html and remove the popup, you will be able to scroll free.
by Protostome
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- Sensational headline, big anticlimax
by hermanzegerman
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- I've never seen Zivver used in German Healthcare.
Also Germany uses and is already Rolling out a Matrix-based Messenger and S/MIME-Mail with End-to-End-Encryption for Communication between Healthcare Professionals.
So at least for Germany this is not a problem.
More problematic was our prior health Minister who wanted to make data accessibile to OpenAI et al for "research". That's also why I opted out of the electronic health record
https://www.heise.de/news/Lauterbach-zu-Gesundheitsdaten-Goo...
- Strange that a 9th October article shows up at the top of the feed given the events of the day in Sydney.
by flanked-evergl
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- Was it done so illegally? If so who will prosecute the people who sold it?
by epolanski
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- I always find it absurd how good Israelis are at security and intelligence yet failed miserably on October 7th.
by jfifjxneodkf72
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- Really HN? Kiteworks was founded by some swedish dude[1] and most of the execs aren't Israeli[2]. Trying to portray this as some secret mossad company is beyond nonsense.
Should there be scrutiny when sensitive data is being sold off? Of course but this article is extremely low quality, with zero evidence and just based on vibes with a nice dose of antisemitism (and no I don't use that term lightly)
As if cyber security experts running a cyber security company is somehow shocking.
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiteworks
[2]https://www.kiteworks.com/company/management/
- It gets better and better.
by jack_tripper
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- It's always companies run by Unit 8200 ex-Israeli spies that are running these telemetry-/ad- surveillance dragnets, and there's never any retaliatory action against them.
Like how about a call to Benny's office saying "hey buddy, reign your dogs in, our citizens are off limits"?
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- Ex-Israeli or ex-spies?
- Do Europeans care if their health data is secret or not? I feel in the US its a big deal that people dont want insurance companies to measure them and deny coverage to those who need it most, but in most of the world that isn't an issue.
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