by al_borland
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- I’m really not a fan of this direction for Apple. One of the differentiators between iOS and Google was a lack of ads, which make the experience feel more premium. Increasing ads, or having them at all, really erodes the user experience.
Apple managed to become the most valuable company in the world without ads. Adding them after hitting that milestone feels either greedy or desperate, maybe a little of both. I know the ads themselves aren’t new, but the steady increase is a worrying trend.
I’d rather pay an extra $100 for the phone than have ads all over it.
- The App Store is an absolute sh!t hole of an experience. Irrelevant ads, impossible to find anything decent. It’s the internet of 1998 pre google.
by helsinkiandrew
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- > Search is the way most people find and download apps on the App Store, with nearly 65 percent of downloads happening directly after a search
This is misleading - does it mean people are searching for an app that they already know about and want to download - chatgpt, samsung, gmail etc. Or searching for a topic or problem and see what apps are available - LLM, camera, running etc.
I rarely do the latter - using web search to find reviews or asking an LLM to give me a list comparing the features and then search for the apps in the appstore (trying to ignore the ads)
- I haven't looked at Apple in a long time. The page reads like a parody, and I had to double check that I was actually on apple.com. The whole industry seems to be in a place where everyone just accepts that most good things are now ruined anyway, so might as well ruin them some more.
- Google Play is plagued with these ads and they are just scams most of the times. You search for an app and get ads from similarly names apps, apps with visually similar icons, ebooks to use the app you searched, etc. They prey on the less tech savvy to install this spam. There's zero user value in them.
by gloxkiqcza
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- In EU, and freshly Japan, alternative iOS app stores are allowed. Let’s hope they manage to use this to their advantage.
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/18/altstore-japan-launch/
- No worries, Apple will execute ads better than others.
We will love with it and praise Apple for it.
- I searched for "Sparkasse" on the German Apple App Store, the good old staid conservative public savings bank. The top result was an ad for Crypto.com: Buy BTC, ETC, ...
- The title should probably mention that this is for search results in the App Store, which already had ads.
Still an unfortunate development though.
- Shame on Apple. And thanks for making me consider alternatives for me and my relatives
by VerifiedReports
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- Thus Apple announces that they're making their already piss-poor, fraudulent app-store search WORSE.
I wrote an app for my company and put it on Apple's app store. It was basically IMPOSSIBLE to find. You could search for the company's exact name (it was the publisher of the app), and it did not appear in the top 300 results (which is where I gave up).
What I caught Apple doing was essentially hijacking the company's (trademarked) name and not showing it, but rather any and every alternate spelling of a similar word... or listings that had no part of the string in their name or description at all. The search string was not present in ANY part of the vast majority of search "hits."
I complained to Apple, and after being blown off once with a bullshit boilerplate response, I mentioned legal action in defense of our trademark. Then they addressed my case with a lie: They claimed that the publisher name is one of the top three search criteria. That is utter bullshit, in practice.
by threatripper
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- The "increased opportunity" is for advertisers. For users it will mean more ads in their search results. Not sure if they provide users with a switch to turn off the opportunities. Apple doesn't like configuration options too much, i guess users will have to live with more ads and spend extra time to find what they were searching when using the shop search where you go to search for specific apps. Maybe Apple AI will present the user with their desired search result without first scrolling through more ads but i sense that there, too, might be new opportunities.
- Apple is just another runner in the race to the bottom, and they're trying their best to catch up to 'the leaders'.
One thing I've noticed with the Play Store is that top-level advertised app results are, more often than not, totally unrelated to what I searched for, and therefore completely useless as both a suggestion to the user and an 'opportunity' for the app creator. In fact, it usually invokes a 'this app must be a scam' response from me.
Thank you, Apple, for increasing the number of opportunities for getting scammed and manipulated on your platform. I will be telling my friends.
- How long until the AppleTV will look like your own in-home billboard? At least on the NVIDIA Shield you could just not install the update that changed the homescreen to incorporate ads (or install an alternative launcher). With the closed eco system of the AppleTV, the options are probably limited if/when Apple decides they need to extract more money from you by blastering ads all over the interface.
- Only time I've ever been successfully phished was the App Store. I have an Android phone but I wanted to try the ChatGPT app on my iPad and naively clicked the first result, which was of course a scummy clone. I have since wised up and understand the App Store search results to be roughly torrent search levels of trustworthy.
I guess the bar for user trust has now dropped enough across the board to sell more off without losing customers? Pretty sorry state of affairs.
- Related: How Apple’s ad targetting works https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-advertisin...
- No thanks and another reason why Apple needs to be forced to allow third party package managers(“app stores”).
- When I switched to iOS from Android it took me a while to realize why App Store search was so bad compared to the Play store (and f-droid, at least back then). It was because the first option was never wat you wanted. The highlighted app at the top was always an ad, never relevant.
I immediately lost some respect for Apple “so this is the expensive luxury platform people talk about?”
I hate that “we” focus on the second derivative to determine value (not just growth but speed of growth). It’s just for the shareholders, meanwhile us customers are looking at a company that is rich beyond believe thinking: “Seriously??”
by heavyset_go
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- Imagine paying $100 a year for the privilege to develop apps, only to have your revenue confiscated to the tune of 15% - 30% and for the same entity to spam users who are looking for your apps, on the only place they can look for apps, with ads for your competitors, or with scummy ads that make you look bad by association.
by solarkraft
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- The continuing enshittification of Apple software is so unfortunate. It has already gone too far.
Apple was the one vendor you could buy stuff from to be able to look down on the peasants bombarded by ads all the time. Now, when I specifically search for an app in the App Store, the result is barely on the screen because it is filled with an ad for another. You get deeply embedded ads and nudges for iCloud pretty often. It already sucks. It‘s like they hate USPs.
- Enshittification at its best (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification), I'm very disappointed that Apple is doing the same thing as everybody else: degrading user experience for short-term increases in profits.
- You can charge a premium for a premium experience, or you can show ads, but not booth. This reinforces my determination to move off macOS and iOS to Linux and GrapheneOS.
by sajithdilshan
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- So Apple gets like 30% of commission for every payment in app store and still they want to push more ads? Like what's going on
by Imagenuity
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- The App Store has one slot at the top of the search listing for a promoted app. This will change to multiple slots.
As an app developer, I used to have to outbid everyone to get the one and only spot. Now I need only outbid the top 3 bidders (or however many slots there are).
I advertised for many months back when App Store ads first started, and it was worth the expense because of higher sales. I no longer advertise because the one and only slot is far outbid what that slot is worth to me, and that I can recoup without spending a lot or raising the price for the app.
So I chose not to advertise and keep the app price lower.
by oliviergg
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- Serious question: who still goes on the App Store, and why? Personally, I haven’t searched for anything there except once out of boredom in 5 year
by blinding-streak
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- "Increase opportunity in search results" is hilarious PR. Obviously it's to increase revenue.
- I wish HN had dislike buttons. Apple is slowly losing what made it unique.
- > Search results ads help customers discover your app right when they’re searching for apps to download.
One would think it's good search that helps users find what they want. But noooo! It's ads!
Ads help users! One has to love this kind of orwellian language. And one has to wonder if it's ever written in good faith? Or is everyone lying as a matter of course, to people who know perfectly well they're being lied to.
Is it even lying if you know they know you're lying?
- Ads in the App Store are filthy and everyone at Apple should be ashamed. The responsible people should be fired.
- "increase opportunity in search results" - what a bunch of bollocks
- How long until we get ads in our lockscreens like in certain android devices?
- Wow. Now you need to pay even more as a developer in order to be distributed on the App Store. These ads are yet another fee on top of the revenue share that Apple takes. It's obscene.
Let's hope alternative App Stores take off. I have very low hopes but hope dies last.
- "Increasing opportunity" what could that even mean when you ignore the fact that they actually mean clicking ads out of an impulse? But if you'd even ignore the truth, what could this even be in a positive sense?
- I recently switched to GrapheneOS and it's been great. Letting any sort of commercial entity between you and your computing just seems like a bad idea these days. Linux is top notch, self-hosting has never been easier. There's really no excuse (as a technologist at least) to subject yourself to these increasingly enshittified platforms.
As someone who works in tech for a career it's honestly a bit of an existential crisis. I actively work on a SaaS product but would never even consider paying for SaaS any more myself.
by xtiansimon
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- Apple isn’t the darling “it” product it’s been in years past.
Apps are addictive but not enriching our lives like we once thought.
Now you want to add advertising?
If a new product comes along and hits the right notes—maybe the e-ink variety, or Cat’s Android with thermal camera. I have the four previous, so I don’t imagine it as a trauma to step off the merry-go-round for my next phone.
- Apple forces names on the iOS app store to be globally unique. But if you search for the exact name of an app it's not the first hit.
A good example of this is my app Bit.
- When you’re a publicly traded company, all roads lead to enshittification. You are beholden to your shareholders and shareholders demand growth.
- It's crazy that a piece of marketing material like this isn't gated behind an advertiser portal. For a company that's been so professional and protective of its brand this is a pretty insane look. Just posting a public article telling its customers that they're getting more ads soon! Could this article not be gated to the paid developer audience?
This would be like if Disney put a press release out bragging about how Mickey Mouse was going to help sell alcohol sales inside their theme parks.
by b3lvedere
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- I hate ads with such a gigantic passion it may be a good thing i'm not in any power to block them all over this universe. Oh well, back to blocking as much possible by any means necessary again. Still rule my own home infrastructure, thank Zeus.
by 2OEH8eoCRo0
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- They must really be struggling
by andrewstuart
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- The enshittification of Apple is here.
Anything for money.
by ChrisArchitect
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- Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310986
- If I try to search for Mastodon on the App Store the ad at the top of the search results is Truth Social. I cant wait for the second and third results to be X and Threads
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