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Vector graphics on GPU

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by Lichtso

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> but [analytic anti-aliasing (aaa)] also has much better quality than what can be practically achieved with supersampling
What this statement is missing is that aaa coverage is immediately resolved, while msaa coverage is resolved later in a separate step with extra data being buffered in between. This is important because msaa is unbiased while aaa is biased towards too much coverage once two paths partially cover the same pixel. In other words aaa becomes incorrect once you draw overlapping or self-intersecting paths.
Think about drawing the same path over and over at the same place: aaa will become darker with every iteration, msaa is idempotent and will not change further after the first iteration.
Unfortunately, this is a little known fact even in the exquisite circles of 2D vector graphics people, often presenting aaa as the silver bullet, which it is not.

by reallynattu

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For anyone looking at this space: ThorVG is worth checking out.
Open-source vector engine with GPU backends (WebGPU, OpenGL), runs on microcontrollers to browsers. Now a Linux Foundation project.
https://github.com/thorvg/thorvg
(Disclosure: CTO at LottieFiles, we build and maintain ThorVG in-house, with community contributions from individuals and companies like Canva)

by virtualritz

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Unless I miss something I think that this describes box filtering.
It should probably mention that that this is only sufficient for some use cases but not for high quality ones.
E.g. if you were to use this e.g. for rendering font glyphs into something like a static image (or a slow rolling title/credits) you probably want a higher quality filter.

by jesse__

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Interestingly they do not cite calculating a signed distance to the surface of the shape as an approach to doing AA, as described in the Valve paper [1]. I suppose this is more targeted at offline baking, but given they're suggesting iterating every curve at every pixel, I'm not sure why you wouldn't.
[1] https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/apps/valve/2007/SIGGRAPH2007...

by jayd16

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So without blowing up the traditional shader pipeline, why is it not trivial to add a path stage as an alternative to the vertex stage? It seems like GPUs and shader language could implement a standard way to turn vector paths into fragments and keep the rest of the pipeline.
In fact, you could likely use the geometry stage to create arbitrarily dense vertices based on path data passed to the shader without needing any new GPU features.
Why is this not done? Is the CPU render still faster than these options?

by Dwedit

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According to the page here: https://www.humus.name/index.php?page=News&ID=228
The best way to draw a circle on a GPU is to start with a large triangle, and keep adding additional triangles on the edges until you've reached the point where you do not need to add any more triangles (smaller than a pixel)

by masswerk

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by xattt

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Tangential, but was this not the goal of Quartz 2D? The idea of everyday things running on the GPU seemed very attractive.
There is some context in this 13-year-old discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5345905#5346541
I am curious if the equation of CPU-determined graphics being faster than being done on the GPU has changed in the last decade.
Did Quartz 2D ever become enabled on macOS?

by nubskr

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Turns out the best GPU optimization is just being too scared of graphics drivers to do the fancy stuff, 10-15x faster and you can actually debug it.

by larodi

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Really, inst there anything which comes Slug-level of capabilities and is not super expensive?

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by badlibrarian

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Author uses a lot of odd, confusing terminology and brings CPU baggage to the GPU creating the worst of both worlds. Shader hacks and CPU-bound partitioning and choosing the Greek letter alpha to be your accumulator in a graphics article? Oh my.
NV_path_rendering solved this in 2011. https://developer.nvidia.com/nv-path-rendering
It never became a standard but was a compile-time option in Skia for a long time. Skia of course solved this the right way.
https://skia.org/