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Ask HN: What to teach my kid if AI does math and CS?

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by codingdave

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> ... that I would not be great at teaching...
First, don't limit your child's education to what you are good at. That is doing them a massive disservice. You don't have to be good at teaching something for your child to learn it. You just need to find and provide resources and help them self-navigate the topic.
Secondly, who cares if AI can do something better? That doesn't mean to avoid learning. People play chess even though grandmasters exist who will always be better than them. People learn to write even though there are professional novelists and poets. Not only is it OK to learn something even if others are better at it, that is kind of the entire point of education.

by nicbou

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In university, we had pretty powerful calculators. Mine had a "solve" button. We could bring them in our exams, but we were tested on figuring out what to ask the calculator. You needed to understand the topic well enough to tell that your result was off by an order of magnitude.
Humanities is also worth it, if only because it makes life so much more interesting. However it's not one of those things that can be forced upon someone. I hated a lot of it until I got to enjoy it on my own, without pressure.
I am not a parent, and I have no skin in this game, but I think that the future will still have space for a well-rounded human being. Even with all the fancy new tech, your child will still need to fix flat tires, negotiate, navigate ethical conflicts, cook, communicate with other people, apologise, speak up, and all the other things.

by gus_massa

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Teach math and CS anyway.
It's better to learn commutativity with "integer" than with "simple groups". You hand needs to know how to do the operation to get intuition to understand what the computer is showing in the screen.
You can probably drop long division, like we dropped long square root a long time ago. They are nice algorithms, so it's nice to revisit them if he is interested when he is a grow up. (Even logarithm tables and slider rules are interesting, but not for everyday use.)
Long sum and long multiplication are too important, don't drop them, probably only for 3x3 digits. Left the 17x16 digits cse for the computer.
Approximation is super important but super hard. I've seen a few attempt to teach that to 7 y.o. kids, but I think in most cases small kids should learn exact calculation that are easier.

by alimw

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I have tried and failed to get an LLM to make any useful contribution to my project in real-world mathematics. So maybe don't believe the hype. I suppose it's possible that at some point they will be more capable than humans, but it's by no means assured.
On the other hand, as was noted before the AI rush and before the recent political turmoil (but they will only have exacerbated it), the value of capital increasingly outweighs the value of labour. So if you want to have grandkids you might want to make money using your own skills while it's still possible.
You haven't said why you are home-schooling?

by OgsyedIE

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by coderwolf

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A lot of the things are fundamentals, right? Teach him/her that. Like he/she still needs to learn to read. Then do basic maths to know how much to pay for groceries, etc.
Prep for the worst, hope for the best. So, if the AGI, UBI doesn't happen, that still would be ok. And if it does, knowing things that are useful, how those AGI things work might come in handy. Maybe those will end up empowering the kids.

by ThrowawayR2

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If your kid genuinely enjoys those things, you should teach them math and CS anyway so that they have a shot at being one of the people designing the AI or supervising it to discover new math. LLMs have broad but shallow knowledge and can brute-force certain well defined tasks but the holes in their capabilities become very apparent once you go beyond undergraduate level studies.
The uproar you see on HN is because most developers are web front-end or back-end developers and LLMs do especially well at those tasks because they have a lot of training data to work with and also because there are also a lot of influencers, snake-oil peddlers, and doomsayers trying to hype AI up for their own gain.

by al_borland

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Calculators been able to do math for decades, we still teach math. It’s important to know enough to know when the calculator or AI are wrong, because the input was bad.
It also takes foundational knowledge to know what to type into a calculator or LLM.

by ferguess_k

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I don't think there is an alternate. Math and logics are mandatory for everything, not just CS. I'd teach Math, Science (Phys and Chem, biased towards history and experiments), Native Language (reading/writing/making speeches), History, one foreign language (mostly speaking but also some reading), Survival skills. Then I'll follow his interests to teach him something else.
I think the ^ are the minimum a good citizen needs. If you can't teach all of them maybe let him go to school as well, or hire someone to do the part you can't.
Regarding the future, yeah I share the some worry, but I guess we all have to go through it.

by ironbound

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Learning how to learn has been a boon throughout out history.
Math has been a staple for hundreds of years.
Being flexible and working in industry's as they start or change will help.

by iExploder

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I would dual class social skills and martial arts... aka make them like you, if they dont just beat em up...

by rramadass

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by bjourne

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You should be commended for an honest question, but why the hell are you home schooling your kid if you have no idea what you're doing? That's child abuse.