Full Transcript (29 points, 7 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46699949

'The old order is not coming back' (35 points, 5 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46694482

- post WW2 countries self-governance is old now ?

- or pre WW1 imperiums is that "older" ?

- or maybe ancient cities-countries are not coming back ?

But returning to common sense always is good proposition :)