by osmano807
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- In my hospital we have ample experience with another technique using polypropylene sheets for defect coverage, popularized in Brazil orthopedics as "Figueiredo's technique", which is in practice an extension of common techinques for temporary closure of abdominal wall ("Bogota's bag").
We put a transparent polypropylene sheet as skin replacement, suture it directly to the skin. We can monitor the wound and its secretions, can cover exposed tendons and bones without immediate doing microsurgical flaps. For example, we can monitor the second intention skin closure with reduced infection and analgesics use, sometimes without needing a graft at all.
by MrDresden
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- There is an Icelandic company called Kerecis that produces these kinds of fish skin based grafts. There are some videos of some of their patient's before and after over at their webpage[0] but be warned, they might be a bit graphic for some.
[0]: https://kerecis.com
- I thought this a pretty mature technique? I have seen more than once our local vet using this technique to treat cats with large wounds -- with great results by the way. Interestingly, they too used tilapia fish skin, and not any of the more common local fish species. I wonder if there is something special about tilapia fish skin, or it was simply the species on which the technique was developed, and nobody bothered to try using other fish species.
by primaprashant
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- They used this exact treatment in an episode of The Good Doctor, S01E06. Original air date: October 30, 2017
https://the-good-doctor.fandom.com/wiki/Not_Fake
- I think one of the most interesting techniques for burn victims is using placentas. I haven't seen it too much in my current hospital system, but have seen it talked about at medical association conferences and think it's pretty exciting.
Here is a gift link for an article about them in the New York Times from about a year ago.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/well/placenta-donations-b...
by dgoldstein0
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- This article is from 2017 - maybe should say so in the submission title?
Still, an interesting read
by highhedgehog
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- My nephew had multiple heart surgery, and after the last one, he kept having the wound release liquids. For months, they just medicated the wound regularly hoping it would solve by itself. At last, they decided for a cleaning surgery, and a pediatric specialist came from Rome and apparently brought something like "fish sheets" to "cover the wound while it heals.
- tangentially related: before penicillin was formally discovered, soldiers in WW1 would use moldy slices of bread to treat their wounds (Penicillium being the most common bread mold). This or similar practices of using mold on wounds seems to date back thousands of years
- previously:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14385336
by binsquare
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- In Chinese villages, I've seen them use fish skin, potato skin, various leaves, cooked birds nest, fish fin oil, and etc to treat open wounds instead of pure bandaging.
While it's not a new technique, it's fascinating for this area to be further explored.
by ycombinatrix
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- They did this in the Netflix One Piece series (with a yellowtail though)
by sammy_rulez
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- It's old news. There is even “And Dream of Sheep” — Grey’s Anatomy, Season 15 Episode 17.
That’s the episode where they mention using tilapia fish skin to treat burns.
Original U.S. air date: March 14, 2019.
- I hope they verify that the recipients are not allergic to fish first. Would be nice to get a synthetic version for that reason.
- TLDR;
Its a fantastic substitute for bandages in the sense that you don't need to take off the fish skin everyday.
Its also better are retaining moisture in the burn wounds than cotton badages.
No need for antibiotics, painkillers etc
Its also really cheap. Fish farms regard them as waste.
by interludead
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- The fact that tilapia skin was basically waste, yet turns out to have higher collagen content, better tensile strength, and better moisture retention than human skin is kind of remarkable
by throwaway290
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- (2017)
- They do this in Iceland too
- This has been going for long enough that there's been several metastudies debunking it. Was hyped in the news around 2017.
Fish skin or silver sulfadiazine had similar effects and to me are both approximating placebo from the studies I read. The fish does nothing for pain and no difference in the scarring time vs the silver ointments.
by kylehotchkiss
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- Is this a stem cell thing or a growth factor/morphogens thing?
by nextaccountic
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- > Mar 3, 2017
Title needs (2017)
- Hmm, I remember seeing something like this mentioned in the show The Good Doctor. I forget the episode, but it deals with a patient who suffers severe burns in a bus crash and receives an experimental treatment using fish skin to aid in healing and minimize scarring. I never really felt comfortable with animal tissue being grafted to human skin. I don't believe animal tissue can be totally cleansed of contaminants. I'd rather feel more confortable with synthetic skin grafting. The movie, Darkman (1990) comes to mind.
by gaptoothclan
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- great news for humans, bad news for fish
by sMarsIntruder
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- > In the US, animal-based skin substitutes require levels of scrutiny from the Food and Drug Administration and animal rights groups that can drive up costs, Lee said. Given the substantial supply of donated human skin, tilapia skin is unlikely to arrive at American hospitals anytime soon.
This reminds me of Milton Friedman’s arguments against the FDA.
by kiernanmcgowan
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- I've read Dune - I know exactly where this is going. Please do not apply sand trout directly to you skin unless you are ready to control the spice.
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- i saw that episode of one-piece
by RobotToaster
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- Will never be approved by the US FDA since it can't be patented.
- I'm pretty sure they've done this for decades. I seem to remember someone using potato skins like 30 years ago.
- This is quite old news. I've heard about this more than 10 years ago at least.
It has been fairly successful since the beginning and I've heard it improved quite a lot
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