by frenchtoast8
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- I'm not understanding how this supports Tailscale's initiatives and mission. That isn't to say this isn't a useful feature for a business, but it feels like a random grasp at "build something, anything, AI related." As a paying customer I'm concerned about the company's focus being blurred when there are 3.8k open issues on their Github repo and my company has been tracking some particular issues for years without progress.
- [Tailscale CEO here] I see a lot of comments asking why Tailscale would branch away from our "core product" and build this thing that seems unrelated at first. One answer is that just about every single Tailscale customer (or homelab user!) is dipping their toes into AI right now, and they often come to us and ask how to integrate their stuff into Tailscale. Aperture is our answer to that.
A separate goal I have personally: demonstrate that anyone can build really neat stuff directly on top of the "Tailscale platform." One of my rules for the Aperture team was, you're not allowed to change core Tailscale, you have to build entirely on top as if you were some partner company. So this is a demo of how anybody can make pretty slick, easy-to-use, and yet highly secure stuff by building on Tailscale (the open source packages, or the commercial product, or both).
- “Aperture” is a pretty creepy name for this.
> By collecting usage information into a single place, engineering and IT leaders can get a complete picture into both user and agent token efficiency across the organization and providers.
What exactly is “user token efficiency”?
by sheepscreek
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- Not trying to diss or anything but a capable engineer could spin this up within their organization in a day or two. So I’m not sure how useful this is going to be to the average customer. Perhaps to the largest customers who have sophisticated security and compliance needs but even for them this would need to be very very competitively priced to be worthwhile (cheaper than the salary of 2 devs for a year).
The true moat of Tailscale is the core product. That can’t be easily replicated (still). Perhaps some product to simplify controlling what resources agents in the organization have access to and having 100% visibility + audatability for them will be way more useful.
- Wellp, looks like it's time for me to downgrade from Personal Pro. Don't think Tailscale needs my five bucks anymore if they're suddenly swinging into AI rentseeking.
Netbird time?
- Oh man. Not saying this is not needed or anything, but it feels like Tailscale needed to pivot to something something AI… What a shitty time to be alive, companies doing good products that actually work well need to appeal to investors and do random things like that.
- Maybe I'm confused this seems like OpenRouter?
- unrelated, but what's the path of least resistance to expose a couple of localhost-bound services to the tailnet, ideally with each having own hostname entry as the browser sees it?
they're not containerised, just plain old daemons.
by cratermoon
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- Hop on the hype train before it crashes!
- Well there be cake?