by zimmerfrei
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- > Nvidia released the first Shield Android TV in 2015
> it took about 18 months to [create] an entirely new security stack [...] Android updates aren’t actually that much work compared to DRM security, and some of its partners weren’t that keen on re-certifying older products.
> In February 2025, Nvidia released Shield Patch 9.2 [...] That was the Tegra X1 [security] bug finally being laid to rest on the 2015 and 2017 Shield boxes.
This is a real engineering marvel. Everybody else would have just given up entirely long time ago. DRM bugs are in most case practically unrecoverable for products that shipped already (and physically in the hands of the adversary). The incentive to tell to consumers "Ditch that product you bought from us 2 years ago, and buy the more recent hardware revision or successor" is extremely strong.
This really feels like a platform that is maintained with pride and love by the nvidia engineering teams (regardless of one's opinion about DRM per se).
by wronglebowski
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- Everyone is missing the why here, this only happens because the whole stack is vertically integrated. Even if say LG wanted to make a box like this and update it for 10 years they couldn’t, they don’t make the chips. Qualcomm straight up refuses to support chips through this many Android releases. Even if device manufacturers want to support devices forever it won’t matter if the actual SoC platform drops support.
- I've got the OG model, and it's still the main device hooked up to my TV. All my TV streaming goes through it (mostly Jellyfin these days), and it can stream games no problem via Moonlight.
It's hooked up to a 4k LG TV, and I have no idea about how it does the upscaling, but 720p content looks perfectly fine on it.
Best (worst?) of all... it still gets updates.
by DecoPerson
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- The Steam Link, also from 2015, is also still receiving updates! My partner and I use ours regularly to play co-op games on our TV. I really appreciate the efforts of whomever is keeping it running.
- That reminds me of my own Samsung Galaxy SII.
Shipped out of the box with Android 2.3, Samsung supported it up until Android 4.1, then I switched to CyanogenMod until my father rage-bought me a new phone in 2016 because it crashed so much he had trouble contacting me. I still kept it up to date with LineageOS and then unofficial versions for fun (it's at Android 13 last I checked).
Do I expect a Samsung Galaxy SII to do as well with 2026 software as it did in 2013? No, but I can run a 2013 computer with 2026 software without needing to track down dodgy homebrews on xdaforums.com and that reflects badly on the smartphone ecosystem.
by magicalhippo
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- I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier.
If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box or similar could do, but I want easy launch of HBO, YouTube etc. And I need that remote control option.
- I'm not even sure which one I have, it's old but it's great. Use it for streaming (smarttube, some apps) and moonlight/sunshine. It does 4k with a ps5 controller so well. Love it. I think it was like a 100 bucks 8 years ago? I use my desktop 5090 and basically stopped using ps5 for couch gaming because it looks so much better. Great value!
Also, not that this is better probably (it is Google and Nvidia after all), but it means my Samsung TV is not connected to the internet, so I don't have to wait 10 seconds for the menu to come up because it is busy loading and injecting ads.
by sgloutnikov
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- No thanks. Downgraded to 8.2.3 years ago and going strong with a custom launcher. Has absolutely everything I need and nothing that I don’t.
This was the guide back then, possibly still works. [0]
[0] https://florisse.nl/shield-downgrade/
- If I KNEW companies would do things like this, I'd be more likely to buy their product. But on the other hand I don't know who to trust because plenty say such things because it is easy to say then ... and then they just quit.
It's part of the reason I like Apple devices.
by beastman82
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- I have had two for 10 years and have no complaints whatsoever
by swiftcoder
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- This a company which routinely provides driver updates to their GPUs for 10+ years. I'm guessing that puts them in a different mindset from the get-go, to your typically smartphone vendor.
by cf100clunk
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- The Shield TV's cylindrical form factor could use a rethink. It is hard to find a good spot for it on a shelf when cords are connected at both ends (HDMI and MMC slot at one end, power and LAN at the other) and the ports are too close for all cords to use right-angle-heads. Leaving it invisible by placing it on the floor or behind other gear sometimes impedes Bluetooth signal, so there it sits, well apart from the AVR, BD, other devices.
by badsectoracula
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- Unfortunately it doesn't seem to extend to the other Shield products. My Nvidia Shield tablet hasn't had an update in many years.
Then again, this is probably why it is still fast :-P
I'm using it pretty much daily as an ebook reader and sometimes i use it to watch videos on bed by transcoding them on my PC (the hardware isn't that good to decode modern formats). Amusingly, these days i use it much more than back when it was new :-P. I keep it offline though (mainly to avoid wasting battery, there isn't anything in it i'd care if it caught malware by net osmosis somehow) and transfer files via a USB cable.
- I'd buy one if they made a new one, but I guess thats basically the hardware the switch uses
by JoshGlazebrook
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- The CEO actively uses the shield pro which im sure is part of it. I just wish they would release a refresh.
- My 2017 model probably short circuited during a lightning strike, because it stopped working after a storm. My friend offered to sell me his 2019 but I thought there'd be new hardware. I should have bought it.
I love the Shield, compared to even the Chromecast at the time, we noticed a huge difference in colour on the TV. If NVIDIA ever produce a refresh, they'll have my money.
- It's nice that you can unlock the bootloader on these and flash Lineage if you want to limit snooping by Google.
That being said, I think that you get more flexibility and performance with a mini PC and and air mouse. For one, stock (Googled) Android does not give you an easy way to use a browser with an ad-blocker, which is still the best way to stream from many sources without ads. Also all these anemic Android boxes struggle with high bitrate 4K videos.
by cf100clunk
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- Dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46824003
- I love my shield, it’s been a staple.
If they wanted to really knock it out the park, the next step would be a steamos port with DRM support.
by TuringNYC
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- I love the NVIDIA Shield as a technical product...but...I really wish they spent some effort on User Experience.
- something else that is outstanding about this device is the support. a couple of months ago my 2017 edition kept restarting occasionally while watching a movie so i got in touch with nvidia support, after a bit of back n forth they agreed to send me a brand new power adapter for free which arrived promptly and completely fixed the problem
- What a new model would need is more compat with DV and better software. Get rid of the Android ads. Add better frame rate matching. Etc.
- My Nvidia Shield Portable is sad to hear this. They updated it to Lollipop 5.1 and then killed it. Pretty much useless now.
by 2OEH8eoCRo0
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- It's ironic that Nvidia before becoming a behemoth had the money for this kind of device.
- My shield bricked itself after just a few months, so YMMV on this. No rhyme or reason why.
- Shield TV + extra storage + HDHomeRun tuner is still a great device for getting OTA TV.
The only downside is that more recent versions use the Google Android TV launcher which is filled with a garbage truck full of ads, often for things I would never want to watch (horror movies? Nope!). Yes you can replace the launcher, but that's a pain.
Would love to pay more for a device that has updated codec support, no ads or tracking, and is basically identical.
by DustinBrett
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- It's sad how few competitors have come out in a decade.
- Now if only they would release an updated one.
- Is this a paid PR piece? Because many other devices by Nvidia like the Jetson boards never get any long term updates.
- They updated it recently to fix the stuttering in the Disney app, and that issue had been there for a year or so. And they did that probably because Disney paid them.
It's a corporation, they don't work for free.
by titaniumrain
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- honestly, shield tv changed how i interact with my tv and my opinion about Android TV (even though its market sucks)
- And yet, they dropped updates for my Shield Tablet basically immediately after I bought it…