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The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

59 points by corvad

by Starlevel004

6 subcomments

> Designing a product with billions of eyeballs on it isn't just challenging — it requires a fundamentally different approach.
I'm not reading this.

by christina97

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Am I reading it right, the widget is seen 5B times per day, and they recruited 8 people for testing to make sure their “redesign would work for everyone”…?

by noplacelikehome

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As a user of an unsigned Firefox fork, Turnstile has ruined a moderate portion of the Internet for me. The way Cloudflare doesn’t think twice about eroding user freedoms, for the sake of a gate that can be trivially bypassed with solvarr or similar, is deeply disturbing. They are no longer a force for good on the web.

by 1vuio0pswjnm7

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"Our Turnstile widget and Challenge Pages are served 7.67 billion times every single day. That's not a typo. Billions. This might just be the most-seen user interface on the Internet."
Or it might not
The majority of the traffic on the internet is from so-called "bots"
If a "bot" hits this "interface" does that count as being "seen"
The web's failing, its inability (unwillingness) to accept non-interactive use (no good for advertising), is Cloudflare's success
A strange thing to celebrate. MITM'ing the majority of the web for "security". Could there be a better way
Another source of amusement is the "You've been blocked" Cloudflare page showing the user's IP address and suggesting contacting the site operator might solve the problem
The truth is that sending an acceptable user-agent header value solves the problem
"You" are not being blocked (Cloudflare does not who "you" are), your IP address is not being blocked, the _request_ you sent was blocked because of crude heuristics
If a site operator wants a certain header value (why) then it should publish the list of acceptable values
Send another request with an acceptable header value and the requests succeeds. It appears "you" are not blocked, same IP address, same living, breathing, thinking person sending the request

by diath

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Will this also be accompanied by a global Turnstile outage like all the other Cloudflare services that get touched? If they end up vibeslopping the redesign like they did with this article, it may just happen.

by Retr0id

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Their final design looks incredibly visually unbalanced, the icon on the left does not have enough breathing room on the left and right.

by greatgib

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I'm not to fire people usually but this long report shows that there are probably too many persons too well paid with nothing to do at Cloud flare.
Because that is a lot of energy spent too have done advance research for an UI that is basic (just a checkbox), not particularly great and common before and after cloudflare...
And a personal rant, I don't understand how they can be proud of themselves when you see the wasted time and energy supported by users to browse the pages that are being Cloudflare.
Imagine this billions of "click-wait" uselessely done by users everyday worldwide

by jiehong

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It’s a checkbox with a loader, and some bike shedding.

by jdprgm

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Remember when we used to care about sub 100ms page loading time and now we have introduced a best case 5 second blocker all over the place.

by hyperman1

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Conversation I heard recently:
We needed a new account on $MAJORSITE and we just could not get trough the captcha - I know, it's getting insane - In the end, we gave up, and just told $AI to make the account for us.
Something is going seriously wrong on the internet.

by stevebmark

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37 em dashes :(

by furyofantares

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LLM-ass written content about this widget nobody wants but is necessary due to bots. Fuck off and write the post yourself.

by altern8

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CloudFlare might be good for site owners, but many times their page makes me click back to search results.
I can't be the only one.
It's slow and annoying, AI overview is good enough for me most of the times so that added time I bet makes websites lose a lot of visits.

by masswerk

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> We recruited 8 participants across 8 different countries, deliberately seeking diversity in age, digital savviness, and cultural background.
> 5 out of 8 points versus just 3 for "I am human." For the verifying state, it was even more dramatic — 7.5 versus 0.5.
n × p >= 5? (Sample size and margins of errors. Is 5:3 even meaningful or is this rather random personal preference?) Apparent splitting of missing or inconclusive data points? (7.5 vs. 0.5 out of a total of 8 subjects.) What kind of (social) research is this supposed to be?

by cyanureworld

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I really hate the way this article is written, feels so fake

by LoganDark

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I'm very vastly in a minority here, but I can't help but feel uncomfortable that the general internet is converging towards explicity verifying humanity and addressing everyone as human. I liked it a lot better when everything was agnostic - I'd verify "I'm not a robot", I'd interact with other "users", etc... "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a ribbon dog."
Now, websites ask me to verify "I'm human", networks and services are starting to address their users as specifically "humans", and discourse is almost always about whether something or other is written by a "human" instead of just not slop.
I get that reality is what it is, but it just feels icky.

by fleroviumna

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