- ability to sandbox Google Play and Google Apps so that they live in their nice little Google bubble and have no control over my phone overall

- ability to run all applications sandboxed with fake permissions that I can whitelist for each application and without letting the app know it doesn't have the permissions it wants. Want location? Give the app a location point I've fixed for that app. (Or pass through real GPS location if I've chosen so.) Want contacts? Give the app empty contacts list. Or if I've allowed, give the app the contacts I've whitelisted.

The Android/Google ecosystem is all right in itself, I just want to limit all of it inside a cage that I control. I want the exact same for my browser: I want webpages to run in a highly controlled sandbox with my choice of spoofed environment and permissions instead of assuming any power over my system. Or my Linux desktop where I firejail or sandbox certain proprietary apps outside of my distro's repositories.

There is a very real possibility that we end up with devices that can play modern mobile games at high frame rates on a secure, privacy-focused mobile OS, which is a huge step towards general adoption of something like this as a daily driver.

I'm under the impression that basebands still require a proprietary/binary blob, basically rendering the security features of the underlying Open Source OS useless, since it sits between the user and outside connectivity.

How can GrapheneOS ensure that there are no hidden backdoors (ie: Pegasus-like spyware, which was created by ex-IDF soldiers via NSO Group), etc, in the baseband?

[1] https://www.whoprofits.org/companies/company/3808

[2] https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/mo...

All in all: Thank you for making this possible.

I WILL be buying their flagship model.

My go to for Graphene has been used Pixels from eBay. Because I can’t give money to Google in good conscience.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Another interesting thing is that I haven't had any reason to buy a new phone in a very long time so we are probably in a time where the hardware is commodotized enough for motorola to be able to ship exactly what I need.

Never thought I would have think of routing for Motorola in 2026 but you never know!

Having physical disconnect switches (Bluetooth/Wifi, Modem, Power, Microphone/Speaker), and integrated lens cover like Lenovo laptops (at least for the front camera whereas a case can cover the rear cameras).

On a side-note:

Triple active SIM would be amazing, but one can dream. I would love to have a phone that has an active AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon SIM at the same time.

If devs can have access to all of the hardware and related documentation and source code, then this is to become very good news.

PCs became popular and widespread because of that: openness.

The current provided desktop mode is rudimentary, and mostly working. But it has so much potential. We could have all in one device with us, and just plug that into an usb-c dock. Or watch things on big screens in hotels if a mouse emulation on touchscreen like samsung would be supported.

Or, as Samsung already has created this, maybe that could be somehow ported to GrapheneOS via some 3rd party patcher? I'd really like to use samsung clock and gallery, as well, as those are quite a lot better than AOSP ones.

I like GrapheneOS, and the promise of it. Just a few minor things and it would be awesome instead of really good.

Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47214645

It's gonna be huge if that's the case because Pixel's here are expensive, their second hand prices are in "non-global" countries[0] and you have to pay a premium. Also I live in world's largest second-hand phone market and it can have its worries as well.

You can't say to anyone who wants privacy, oh just buy a second-hand pixel. It's just not that easy.

But if Motorola can launch multiple phones and there are always gonna be some deals one way or another (with cards) and as motorola phones are pretty competitive in price, Finally we can have phones worldwide where privacy isn't charged extra.

I have spent some hours looking at online second hand phone stores to find but due to its somewhat rarity, I always feel like being frugal, I am just paying extra for privacy and so I am really happy with decision from motorola using their supply chain of phones and partnering up with Graphene.

I was gonna buy a phone for myself, I was thinking a second hand pixel phone but given the things I said earlier at this point, I might as well wait for a few more months to get the moto phone.

I just hope that they launch an affordable phone with grapheneos. I really don't care about specs as I have been able to live my life with 7 year old motorola phones too in 2026 for sometime.

I will definitely recommend my family Motorola phones in the future and slowly convert everyone to motorola if motorola releases an affordable phone with actual privacy.

[0]:https://www.xcitium.com/blog/news/why-is-google-pixel-not-gl...

I know that in the US Verizon and Tmobile customers have access to satellite connectivity and it's possible to get this feature working on a GrapheneOS phone if you are one of their customers, but I am in Europe and European providers don't provide satellite connectivity.

If you want to invest into software, this should be #1 of your list.

I also am willing to suffer lower specs in short term if it benefits me in the long run.

While I'm at it, I don't trust GrapheneOS. The devs injecting certain types of politics into the project.

But it's better than both Apple and Google who both are known to spy and have tons of backdoors.

That's great to see. I'm getting flashbacks of doing the "find the blobs" game years ago with LineageOS.

My S21 FE 5G is still fine (for now), going on 3 years. But I'm sure Samsung will cripple the battery life at some point..

The timing is super weird too, when all corporations are pushing for digital ID, are actively lobbying to deanonymize the users, cooperating with gov too to have a smooth pipeline for such process, and motorola the known company of having defense contracts, are suddenly caring about open source privacy?! Cmon

Do we have any idea if they'll have something ready before September?

I've been running on several half-working recent android ports to my Xiaomi Mi 9t for many years now.

If I can get a modern phone, modern android, my privacy preserved and a hackable phone (to the extent an unlockable bootloader allows, which isn't a given nowadays, I especially hate how Xiaomi does it), I'm 100% sold.

We'll see when it comes out I guess!