by zoezoezoezoe
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- "feel like a single-page app" except that its not and it will never be. I hate HTML-over-the-wire solutions to any problem. There is not a worse solution that has been more normalized than html-over-the-wire.
by recursivedoubts
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- heya amaury, great library!
i have added it to the htmx alternatives page:
https://htmx.org/essays/alternatives/#ujs
- I really like these sorts of frameworks from an architectural perspective, but what's the use-case? Maybe I'm too SPA-pilled, because to me all the fun of Web development is in providing really fluid, skeuomorphic experiences like those enabled by, eg pragmatic-drag-and-drop[0] or yjs[1].
I just struggle to envision what application benefits from the efficiency that this or htmx offer, but from neither the ultra-interactive, nor the ultra-collaborative. Maybe updating stock ticker prices? Fast-service back-of-house ticketing displays?
I would love to feel called to reach for this library.
0. https://github.com/atlassian/pragmatic-drag-and-drop
1. https://github.com/yjs/yjs
by nattaylor
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- Reminds me a little of htmz
htmz is a minimalist HTML microframework for creating interactive and modular web user interfaces with the familiar simplicity of plain HTML.
- There’s several other (well) known examples of the use of mujs.
There’s Artifex’s interpreter from muPDF. It’s also the basis of several JS related projects: https://mujs.com/
There’s also a lesser known interpreter: https://github.com/ccxvii/mujs
And IIRC, there was a CommonJS library of the same name.
by stanfordkid
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- I'm curious to understand, why would you build your website this way vs. say jQuery. I've never really understood the HTMX ecosystem. Is this just to avoid javascript and replace that with html pages, id's and attributes? It feels like the DOM is a very clear abstraction and scripting is a more powerful way to manipulate it. What do people like or prefer about this approach and paradigm?
by josephernest
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- Nice project, always interesting to see HTMX-inspired frameworks.
If you want something even more minimalistic, I did Swap.js:
100 lines of code, handles AJAX navigation, browser history, custom listeners when
parts of DOM are swapped, etc.
https://github.com/josephernest/Swap.js
Using it for a few production products and it works quite well!
- I’m curious: why does the default behavior do the magic replacement for absolute paths links but not for relative paths?
Also, perhaps the CDN script snippets in the getting started page should include the integrity attribute.
- Would love to see a comparison with Datastar too
- Quite impressive! I’ve been looking into Turbo alternatives so it showed up on my feed the right time.
One gripe with the name though is that I’m used to uTorrent’s and uws’s use of “u” for the “µ” character. So, my first guess would be to look for uJS to find this project, not muJS.
- What's the best way to handle having multiple frontend components respond to events from a single SSE connection from some parent node data provider? Ideally we do not what many SSE connections within a page for each component.. right? Then what's the best practice to handle that single SSE handler on the server and frontend? If that makes sense...
- I tried this out today and it doesn't seem to work for me, because it only considers relative urls to be "internal." If the urls are full urls (https://domain:port/...) then it won't work. It seems like it should be able to use window.location to work out that these full urls are also "internal" as well.
- Hey, cool library had just a small nitpick/request wrt https://mujs.org/playground
Could you please add all sources as tabs? For example in Form (GET) I would really like to see /demos/search-results.html and the same goes for other examples.
Thanks!
- Layman’s question: How to avoid the page jumping back to the top in the Playground examples?
- Looks useful! I skimmed through the docs and had a question.
Is there a mechanism for loading HTML partials that require additional style or script file? And possibly a way to trigger a JS action when loaded? For example, loading an image gallery.
by heddycrow
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- It's about time browsers start supporting something like this natively. Fingers crossed.
I'll be checking this out. Any chance you (or anyone) has had a run with this lib + web components? I'd love to hear about it.
- I’d like to see a comparison with pjax as well: https://github.com/defunkt/jquery-pjax
by pwdisswordfishy
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- Not to be confused with https://mujs.com/ I guess?
by reverseblade2
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- Another library ignores shadow dom.
As of now you don't need any frameworks for this. The new command and navigation apis, would just do the same trick.
by swaminarayan
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- At ~5KB gzipped this is impressively small. What were the biggest features you deliberately left out to keep the size that low?
- I don't do a lot of frontend work, but I'm glad to see more of this stuff popping up. Anything that combats the normal framework insanity is a good thing in my book. And this looks like a really cool idea. The default routing approach is an awesome idea, swapping the entire body by default is also really interesting. It seemed odd to me at first, but the more I thought about it the more it made sense.
- I like the idea. DOM morphing is nice.
I've done this previously with morphdom to AJAXify a purely server-driven backoffice system in a company.
I would love something even smaller. No `mu-` attributes (just rely on `id`, `href`, `rel`, `rev` and standard HTML semantics).
There's a nice `resource` attribute in RDFa which makes a lot of sense for these kinds of things: https://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-lite/#h-resource
Overall, I think old 2015-era microdata like RDFa and this approach would work very well. Instead of reinventing attributes, using a standard.
by ranger_danger
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- Does it automatically parse JSON responses from servers into objects? This is my one big gripe about htmx, even though the devs and other users keep telling me I shouldn't want that as a feature and that it "doesn't make sense".
Sorry if I need to use existing APIs I cannot change.
by majorchord
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- https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/
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