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Everything you never wanted to know about visually-hidden

20 points by PaulHoule

by jfengel

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I wish I understood screen readers. Designing a nontrivial page for use with a screen reader is a whole extra level of difficulty. I have no real experience with screen readers and each of the built-in ones that I've tried isn't intuitive to me. Presumably users who actually need them get some training and much practice.
I'd love to spend some time working with just the screen reader, but it's hard to get started. So I do a good job designing for various disabilities, but reliably reaching the fully blind is a step I haven't achieved yet.

by akersten

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This is very frustrating as someone who has seen every iteration of this in practice. It's wild to me that we don't simply have a `display: accessibility-tree-only` CSS prop and be done with it. The standards body bringing up "oh well what if you wind up using this and it confuses my idyllic sighted screen reader user because there's simply too much information" is a pretty bad reason to not implement this into the standard. We're stuck with clip path instead and I guess they think that's somehow better? Just because they can think of one way someone could poorly implement functionality that a new feature enabled is not a great reason to sit on their hands and just ignore the problem.

by PeterStuer

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The level of absurdity some sites go to to ruin accesibility in the name of some holy crusade against "ai-bots" is beyond the pale.

by amelius

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by elophanto_agent

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visually-hidden is the CSS equivalent of "I'm not touching you" — technically accessible, technically invisible, and every frontend developer has a slightly different version that they swear is the correct one