- IMO while the bar is high to say "it's the responsibility of the repository operator itself to guard against a certain class of attack" - I think this qualifies. The same way GitHub provides Secret Scanning [0], it should alert upon spans of zero-width characters that are not used in a linguistically standard way (don't need an LLM for this, just n-tuples).
Sure, third-party services like the OP can provide bots that can scan. But if you create an ecosystem in which PRs can be submitted by threat actors, part of your commitment to the community should be to provide visibility into attacks that cannot be seen by the naked eye, and make that protection the norm rather than the exception.
[0] https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/learning-about-github...
by zzo38computer
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- I use non-Unicode mode in the terminal emulator (and text editors, etc), I use a non-Unicode locale, and will always use ASCII for most kind of source code files (mainly C) (in some cases, other character sets will be used such as PC character set, but usually it will be ASCII). Doing this will mitigate many of this when maintaining your own software. I am apparently not the only one; I have seen others suggest similar things. (If you need non-ASCII text (e.g. for documentation) you might store them in separate files instead. If you only need a small number of them in a few string literals, then you might use the \x escapes; add comments if necessary to explain it.)
The article is about in JavaScript, although it can apply to other programming languages as well. However, even in JavaScript, you can use \u escapes in place of the non-ASCII characters. (One of my ideas in a programming language design intended to be better instead of C, is that it forces visible ASCII (and a few control characters, with some restrictions on their use), unless you specify by a directive or switch that you want to allow non-ASCII bytes.)
- It baffles me that any maintainer would merge code like the one highlighted in the issue, without knowing what it does. That’s regardless of being or not being able to see the “invisible” characters. There’s a transforming function here and an eval() call.
The mere fact that a software maintainer would merge code without knowing what it does says more about the terrible state of software.
- The `eval` alone should be enough of a red flag
- Small discussion yesterday (9+9 points, 9+4 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47374479 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47385244
- I feel like the threat of this type of thing is really overstated.
Sure the payload is invisible (although tbh im surprised it is. PUA characters usually show up as boxes with hexcodes for me), but the part where you put an "empty" string through eval isn't.
If you are not reviewing your code enough to notice something as non sensical as eval() an empty string, would you really notice the non obfuscated payload either?
by WalterBright
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- Unicode should be for visible characters. Invisible characters are an abomination. So are ways to hide text by using Unicode so-called "characters" to cause the cursor to go backwards.
Things that vanish on a printout should not be in Unicode.
Remove them from Unicode.
by like_any_other
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- Invisible characters, lookalike characters, reversing text order attacks [1].. the only way to use unicode safely seems to be by whitelisting a small subset of it.
And please, everyone arguing the code snippet should never have passed review - do you honestly believe this is the only kind of attack that can exploit invisible characters?
[1] https://attack.mitre.org/techniques/T1036/002/
- Looks like the repo owner force-pushed a bad commit to replace an existing one. But then, why not forge it to maintain the existing timestamp + author, e.g. via `git commit --amend -C df8c18`?
Innocuous PR (but do note the line about "pedronauck pushed a commit that referenced this pull request last week"): https://github.com/pedronauck/reworm/pull/28
Original commit: https://github.com/pedronauck/reworm/commit/df8c18
Amended commit: https://github.com/pedronauck/reworm/commit/d50cd8
Either way, pretty clear sign that the owner's creds (and possibly an entire machine) are compromised.
- Their button animations almost "crash" Firefox mobile. As soon as I reach them the entire page scrolls at single digit FPS.
- Attacks employing invisible characters are not a new thing. Prior efforts here include terminal escape sequences, possibly hidden with CSS that if blindly copied and pasted would execute who knows what if the particular terminal allowed escape sequences to do too much (a common feature of featuritis) or the terminal had errors in its invisible character parsing code.
For data or code hiding the Acme::Bleach Perl module is an old example though by no means the oldest example of such. This is largely irrelevant given how relevant not learning from history is for most.
Invisible characters may also cause hard to debug issues, such as lpr(1) not working for a user, who turned out to have a control character hiding in their .cshrc. Such things as hex viewers and OCD levels of attention to detail are suggested.
- Why didn't some make av rule to find stuff like this, they are just plain text files
by codechicago277
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- I wonder if this could be used for prompt injection, if you copy and paste the seemingly empty string into an LLM does it understand? Maybe the affect Unicode characters aren’t tokenized.
by NoMoreNicksLeft
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- Why can't code editors have a default-on feature where they show any invisible character (other than newlines)? I seem to remember Sublime doing this at least in some cases... the characters were rendered as a lozenge shape with the hex value of the character.
Is there ever a circumstance where the invisible characters are both legitimate and you as a software developer wouldn't want to see them in the source code?
by chairmansteve
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- eval() used to be evil....
Are people using eval() in production code?
by faangguyindia
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- Back in time I was on hacking forums where lot of script kiddies used to make malicious code.
I am wondering how that they've LLM, are people using them for making new kind of malicious codes more sophisticated than before?
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by aplomb1026
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- I don't have to worry about any of this.
My clawbot & other AI agents already have this figured out.
/s
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