- “Automation can lower the workload in some cases. But in other situations, using automation when it is not appropriate can increase one’s workload. A pilot has to know how to use a level of automation that is appropriate... Whether you’re flying by hand or using technology to help, you’re ultimately flying the airplane with your mind by developing and maintaining an accurate real-time mental model of your reality—the airplane, the environment, and the situation. The question is: How many different levels of technology do you want to place between your brain and the control surfaces?“[0]
—Sully Sullenberger
[0] Sully: My Search for What Really Matters. p. 188
by operatingthetan
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- We already have advanced autopilots that can fly commercial airliners. We just don't trust them enough to not have human pilots. I would trust the autopilot more than freaking Claude. We already do, every day.
- The question of 'can it fly' is clearly a 'yes, given a little bit of effort'. Flying isn't hard, autopilots have been around a long time. It is recognizing and dealing with things you didn't anticipate that is hard. I think it is more interesting to have 99% of flying done with automated systems but have an LLM focus on recognizing unanticipated situations and recovering or mitigating them.
by basfijneman
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- If planes can fly autopilot I assume claude can make a pretty good flight plan.
Not sure if claude can react in time if shit hits the fan.
"spawning 5 subagents"
by travisgriggs
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- The bit in the middle where it decides to make its control loop be pure P(roportional), presumably dropping the I and D parts, is interesting to me. Seems like a poor choice.
I try to fly about once a week, I’ve never really tried to self analyze what my inputs are for what I do. My hunch is that there’s quite a bit of I(ntegral) damping I do to avoid over correcting, but also quite a bit of D(erivative) adjustments I do, especially on approach, in order to “skate to the puck”. Density going to have to take it up with some flight buddies. OR maybe those with drone software control loop experience can weigh in?
- > CRASHED #2, different cause. Plane was stable in a slow descent but between fly.py invocations (~20 sec gap while I logged and computed the next maneuver) there was no active controller. Plane kept descending under its last commanded controls until it hit terrain at 26 ft MSL, 1.7 nm short of the runway. Lesson: never leave the controller idle in flight
Gold
by webprofusion
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- "Can I Get Claude to Fly A Plane" isn't the same thing. Interesting though, would be a good test for different models but it relies on the test harness being good enough that a human could also use the same info to achieve the required outcome. e.g. if latency of input/output is too slow then nobody could do it.
by bottlepalm
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- AI being able to quickly react to real time video input is the next thing. Computer use right now is painfully slow working off a slow screenshot/command loop.
- Claude uses the wrong modality to be a piloting model. Latency is critical, and outputting tokens in the hope they take the action at the right time is kinda bonkers.
You'd want all the data from the plane to be input neurons, and all the actions to be output neurons.
- Prepare for landing "rate limit exceeded" (Error 429)" ;-)
by morpheuskafka
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- Surely at least part of the issue here is that even an LLM operates in two digit tokens per second, not to mention extra tokens for "thinking/reasoning" mode, while a real autopilot probably has response times in tens of milliseconds. Plus the network latency vs a local LLM.
- "Approaching for landing"
"500 Our Servers Are Experiencing High Load"
"500 Our Servers Are Experiencing High Load"
"500 Our Servers Are Experiencing High Load"
- I wouldn't really worry about flying, but more about taking off/landing.
Related from December 2025:
Garmin Emergency Autoland deployed for the first time
https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/aviation-news/aviation-sa...
- Does Claude know the plane isn't at the car wash?
by hansmayer
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- Mate, we don't trust it to write an email or the code it generates. Why should we trust it to fly a plane?
- > main issue seemed to be delay from what it saw with screenshots and api data and changing course.
This is where I think Taalas-style hardware AI may dominate in the future, especially for vehicle/plane autopilot, even it can't update weights. But determinism is actually a good thing.
- Friend participating in some sort of simulated glider tournament trained a neural network to fly one some way (don't ask details). I recall rules were changed to ban such, not because of him.
Using Claude sounds overkill and unfit the same time.
- You could also use your forehead as a hammer, but it's likewise going to result in more pain than gain.
I wouldn't trust Claude to ride my bike, so I certainly wouldn't board its flight.
by thewhitetulip
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- Humans can also fly. Once.
- Besides the article, I think a big issue for this would be the speed of the input-decision-act loop as it should be pretty fast and Claude would introduce a lot of latency in it.
- Give a stochastic text generator to physics. What can go wrong.
by Paracompact
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- As most others have pointed out, the goal from here wouldn't be to craft a custom harness so that Claude could technically fly a plane 100x worse than specialist autopilots. Instead, what would be more interesting is if Claude's executive control, response latency, and visual processing capabilities were improved in a task-agnostic way so that as an emergent property Claude became able to fly a plane.
It would still be better just to let autopilots do the work, because the point of the exercise isn't improved avionics. But it would be an honestly posed challenge for LLMs.
by userbinator
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- The real question is, can it keep the plane in one piece?
- Let's hope you don't reach Claude's session limit during approach, while trying to correct a slightly too steep descent angle.
- I wonder if using a model with a higher TOK/s would yield improvements, as the model will have faster feedback loops
- If there's a timeline where claude can actually fly a plane, then operating nuclear reactors can be possible as well.
- I think you gave someone an idea for a new RL environment :) Probably it will be able to fly it in the next iteration.
- So Claude crashed because it was busy figuring out how to fly the plane?
by razorbeamz
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- I'd imagine Claude is too slow to fly a plane above everything.
- Sky King managed it, no reason claude shouldnt be able to.
by dist-epoch
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- try using codex-5.3-spark, it has much faster inference, might be able to keep up. and maybe a specialized different openrouter model for visual parsing.
- haha, if can, would you dare to follow it? :D
by otabdeveloper4
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- Yes, but for a limited time only.
- they say already used in some missiles which hit school at current war by mistake
- Lots of people commenting seem to have not read the article. The author didn't hook Claude up directly with the controls, asking it to one-shot a successful flight.
The author tried getting Claude to develop an autopilot script while being able to observe the flight for nearly live feedback. It got three attempts, and did not manage autolanding. (There's a reason real autopilots do that assisted with ground-based aids.)
by linzhangrun
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