It's the sort of messy job that agents excel at. Decisions need to be made on free text data, translations done into multiple languages, ambiguity handled.

I now need to recheck it still works with another model, which involves a lot of manual verification; and potentially move to Claude Code and pay more money I can ill afford right now.

I'm not even clear from the post when this comes in, I'm guessing effective immediately.

This really hammers home for me the point that we should not be renting our tools.

My own dumb fault for trusting them, I will make sure to learn from this.

Opus 4.6 had a 3x multiplier in Pro. Now the new Opus 4.7 model has 7.5x in Pro+, which offers 5x more requests, but costs 4x more than Pro. So now Opus is essentially 2x the price it used to be.

It’s likely that Sonnet 4.7 will be the new 3x model in Pro — https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/changes-to-gi...

This whole thing is a massive asshole move, and probably illegal in all countries with a minimum set of consumer protections.

I get the impression that the intersection of HN posters and Copilot users is quite small in practice; that Claude Code and Codex suck up all the oxygen in this room. But it seems plausible we’ll see similar “true costs greatly exceed our current subscription pricing” from Anthropic and OpenAI someday soon…

I think this is really telling. The cost of AI has really been masked HUGELY to drive adoption. The true cost is likely to be unsustainable for the big complex tasks (agents running for hours+) that companies have been pushing.

I was skeptical, then quietly bullish on AI, but I'm now seeing signs the market is cracking and the availability is going to receded/costs balloon.

Opus 4.7 is available today for 7.5 credits per prompt.

They have also suspended new signups.

After testing all of the major IDEs/tools that integrate with LLMs over the last four weeks, I was happy to settle on Copilot. I, and others, seem to be a lot confident in that decision. Especially since there seems to be no refund path for people who prepaid for a year.

In my 30+ years online, I've never seen an industry change so much in terms of pricing, service levels, etc, as I have the last two months.

I'm really curious where all of this lands, and if AI coding tools will be something that only a small percentage can genuinely afford at a competitive level.

It's a shame because the VsCode copilot experience is quite good out of the box compared to all of the other harnesses I've used. But with typical lack of transparency, and sudden, harsh changes... What are they thinking?

After the restrictive rate limiting they've already instituted, I'm simply cancelling and continuing by using providers directly.

I've been using the Pro+ with Opus 4.6 very successfully and being charged 3x rate was mostly acceptable.

But removing Opus 4.6 and replacing with Opus 4.7 with a 7x rate is just insane!

It was clear (see the linked post from 70 days ago) that the current offering was unsustainable, but I'm a bit taken aback at how sharp the clawback is.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46938246

Looks like I'm ending my subscription, good (likely too good, no way my account was even remotely within profitable range) access to opus-4.6 was the only reason I used this at all.

Now it's going to cost me an upgrade to $39 Github Pro+ to keep using Opus, and even then it's with much higher multipliers. I don't fully understand the extent to which this reflects actual costs for Opus versus Microsoft leveraging network effects to discourage the usage of a competitor.

I didn't really want to wander outside of VSCode just yet because I was happy with VSCode/Copilot/Opus-4.5 and I don't want to spend all my time experimenting when stuff is changing so fast. But I guess my hand has been forced.

And you can then cancel it. I have no idea what a premium request is and it's all just too complicated to use.

There are no good solutions for them.

If OpenAI is indeed overbuilt they will completely eliminate Claude.

That's not how my creative energy works. I have time that I want to solve problems, and I want to solve them. I don't want a cooldown timer applied to solving a problem. Not to mention the anxiety of realizing that while I sleep I could have burned tokens in that time.

I'm incredibly disappointed when I sat down to my hobbyist programming time and realized copilot was suddenly and dramatically changed in a way that is incredibly disheartening.

Meter my token usage DON'T tell me when I can use them! ARGH.

I guess overall probably was a good decision.

But 7.5x as well as quota limits is pretty hard to swallow.

The annoying thing about the quota limits is they make it really awkward to actually fully utilize the 1500 premium requests you are paying for.

Like if you don’t plan working around the daily and weekly quotas you may not actually be able to utilize your full request allocation.

Claude has the same issue. Single session blows through the quota.

The joke is on them, though (maybe) because this also means that there's literally no reason to keep that account active.

Pricing per turn/request was/is an idiotic model and I'm glad they are paying for it. It just forces you into a workflow just to work around business model. Heck the best laugh would be to create a plan outside vscode with interactive CC/Codex then copy paste into GH copilot to do a single session burn of few M tokens.

Again ridiculous model.

The per-request model was pretty insane.

Given that they've already silently had session + weekly rate limits for the past couple weeks already at least (I've hit them), I wonder if this change is just making them visible to the user, or if it's actually tightening them too.

If it's the former then I can say they're still significantly more generous than claude pro (on the pro+ plan), so this might be okay. If it's the latter, and the new limits are similar to claude pro then copilot is going to be significantly less useful to me.

I subscribed two months ago, frustrated with Claude Code and their tight session limits.

The Copilot offer was unbeatable 100 dollars for a 12 months plan, if I remember correctly.

It was pretty clear they were losing money, but hey, it's Microsoft and they need customers, so a competitive push on pricing is expected.

Let's see what these limits look like and I'll decide whether to cancel my subscription or not.

Still a terrible move from them.

I'm a paying customer and I did not receive ANY communication about this. Was using Opus this afternoon and then it disappeared.

Microsoft really can't stop being Microsoft. I don't dispute the need to charge more for those models, but there is a basic decency to do things and as usual the Big Tech fuckery and complete lack of morals makes them do this in a way that generates total mistrust where it could be just annoyance.

I'll see how Sonnet handles the most difficult problems but I'm foresee a subscription cancelation soon.

They're all operating at a loss, enshittification is coming for us all.