Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

EDIT: While we are here, let's do this for politicians as well :), publicly available, auditable 24-hour surveillance.

And you expect Meta employees, of all people, to believe this?

I realize you can argue whatever is done at work should have no expectation of privacy, and I get that, but as an employer myself I've always felt that schemes like keyboard and mouse tracking are going a chasm too far. Your employees are human beings not robots. In the older context of corporate productivity tracking there are far better metrics available - starting with, I don't know, maybe talking to your employee and asking them how things are going.

I wouldn't have a problem if it were opt-in, but if this were foisted upon me I would surely quit.

I hope this is widely hacked. If these employees are any good, someone will whip up a countermeasure that feeds absurdly wild and nonsensical data into Meta's fetid, gaping maw.

Then they’ll deploy models trained on this, and begin capturing employees using AIs that are good at using AIs to do work.

Repeat a few times and they’ll start capturing the keystrokes from people mashing their heads into keyboards with dispair and exclaiming, “Why can’t these models do anything anymore!!”

The presentation of the video and all the comments were on awesome cool ego-centric video understanding research that’s going to totally obsolesce human labor. I couldn’t get over how grim the video was. Here are some people in one of the least desirable positions in the world, and that’s not enough. Now they must labor without a shred of dignity, knowing they’re training their own replacements and likely not a thing they can do about it.

I’ve struggled to find enough freelance work to stay busy recently, but more than that I’m starting to feel a moral crisis. It’s getting harder and harder for me to feel like what we’re collectively doing isn’t absolutely fucked.

We’ve been moving towards a more and more tyrannical company controlled society for a long time and now they’re straight up doing hacking tactics to train machines to take our jobs. Doesn’t get much more bleak than that.

This is like going to work in a drug-lab where everyone is required to strip naked to ensure no "product" can be smuggled out. It's a zero trust environment at first blush, with the added terror of it being used to replace you with AI.

People working naked in a drug lab have more job security than meta employees and an equivalent level of respect and trust from their employer. However, they can't unionize because they have no legal protections. Their employer could literally point a gun at them if they complained. That isn't the case for Meta employees. Just sayin'.

Someone had to do it, distasteful though it may be. Could be quite hilarious what it learns in the process.

Meanwhile, nobody seems focused on capturing CEO’s data for AI training.

I will say that I feel for the folks who work at Meta...I can't help but to feel they have long jumped the shark.

“ The ugly truth is that we believe in connecting people so deeply that anything that allows us to connect more people more often is de facto good. It is perhaps the only area where the metrics do tell the true story as far as we are concerned.”

They 'trust me'. Dumb f*ks.

Being a terminal application, all interaction is trainable signal (unlike, say, cursor, which is an IDE and let users freely explore, edit the files, move the mouse. Model sees nothing of it, nothing to train upon).

So meta is doing the obvious, we want to train a computer use model, we need training data. Better to capture from employee than buying low quality data.

https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

Also, why are the investors not suing the legs off of Zuck for the whole meta verse debacle? It is a scam and pure fraud. Also dumb name, sue for that too. Should have just renamed it meeme.

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Seems like a strange approach in general. I'd have assumed you'd just have it use accessibility features to get at things, if there is no other interface.

Sure, you can do everything a human can, but it also seems VERY inefficient

As an alternative, maybe you could just do network in/out?

If you then think of crazy companies such as Palantir, something really has to be done about those entities. As a first step I suggest disbanding those companies, for many reasons, including wrong ethics.

Does the executive know better at this point but have toasted the culture and no one can fight against it anymore?

Btw do they at least pay them extra for this spying or is it supposed to be for free? I mean if they paid at least 30-50% on top of the salary maybe I wouldn't mind doing it on dedicated meta computer.

Always thought Meta was a god awful run company and this just brings home the cake

Really though it seems reasonable to me. They want data to train AI, and their employees are obviously a large source.

They could already track your every click. They have root on your work MacBook. Most employers do.

I...admire the diligence

More proof that they do not care about you at all. This is Meta's way of moving fast and destroying everything at all costs.

Horseshit.

1. Employees are being asked to train AI to replace them.

2. Performance assessments will 100% be impacted. No question.

Thinking back on the OTT interview experience that Facebook helped pioneer, imagine making it through that, getting paid a massive sum of money BUT barely getting by on it because of the location, then they drop this crap on you?

Big Brother is always watching.

Optimizing ourselves to death.

Capitalism is asleep at the wheel with its foot stuck on the gas pedal.

I know you've long been hypnotized by libertarianism and the cult of the individual.

Maybe it's time you reconsider in light of the overwhelming evidence that the capitalist class is, in fact, not your friend.

The only known way for workers to assert their rights is collective action. Alone, you are weak and replacable. Together, we are strong.

It's time for a proper tech worker's union, to give us some fangs to claw back our dignity with.

> The tool will run on a list of work-related apps and websites and will also take occasional snapshots of the content on employees’ screens for context, according to one memo, posted by a staff AI research scientist on Tuesday in a dedicated internal channel for the company's model-building Meta SuperIntelligence Labs team.

ALL YOUR DATA IS BELONG TO US

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Now imagine a society where your individual daily actions are recorded, reviewed and helpfully advised upon.

Millions of people making millions of actions each day and all recorded compared and sifted for positive feedback and improvement overall.

Just how far ahead would such a society pull compared to one that stays at today’s level. Compared to one that used totalitarian methods enabled by such surveillance?

The difference between Soviet and Western Europe was not the tech, it was the trust.

If we can build a society with f trust then this tech will turbo charge us.

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