U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back
by iknowstuff
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- Judging solely by their FAQ, this is not enough. Iris photos can be fabricated client-side, including by AI, and can be shared.
So it's invasive AND worthless? Why is this getting support?
You need an offline/IRL verification step and measures to prevent sharing/cloning. AND you need to never phone home revealing services you're using.
Total garbage
Proof of human verification powered by the Orb only involves one type of data: images of your eyes and face. It does not require your name, email, gender or anything else.
The iris images are used to verify unique humanness, while the images of your face are used for Face Auth, a security feature that ensures only the person who verified their World ID at an Orb can use it.
The Orb takes high-resolution images of your irises and face.
The Orb uses these images to confirm your humanness and converts the iris image into a unique code which is then split into randomized multi-party compute (MPC) fragments.
The Orb sends the images and MPC fragments to your device (your personal custody package), before permanently deleting them.
Your device sends the fragments to the AMPC service to confirm you have never verified before.
Your World ID is verified.
- I tried to track down the original source of the news that World ID is being adopted by Zoom and Tinder and DocuSign and it looks like it's an event they hosted on April 17th. Here's their blog post about it: https://world.org/blog/announcements/the-new-world-id-and-th...
There were more logos on that title slide: Tinder, DocuSign, Zoom, Okta, Vercel, Shopify, Browsnerbase, AWS, exa, RAZER, Coinbase, VanEck
by 2ndorderthought
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- World id, meta verifier, how many other military funded establishments are pushing to require mass surveillance of everyone doing anything. Meanwhile their bots run rampant all over the Internet without any concern for anyone else's infrastructure, copyright, or ip. The irony...
- You mean to tell me that companies that got rich by hoarding data are excited to hoard more data? Never would have guessed.
Also, why wouldn't anyone want to have data about everyone? Seems like a valuable asset.
by theplatman
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- so we're trusting the guy who created tech to make it easier for bots to exist on the internet to then sell us the solution to fix the problem he made worse?
- This is an odd topic. On the one hand, we do seem to have a problem where attention is hijacked by engagement farming. On the other, we also know of problems from draconian management.
I would actually like it if we had something that could say, only promote things on my feeds that are "liked" by people within a geographic radius of me. At the least, mute things that are getting pumped from hostile regions.
I just don't know that I see how this can get us there, though? Seems far more likely that it would lead to more abuse.
- I'm not even remotely-interested unless there is legislation that creates civil-liability and criminal penalties for abuse or mishandling of the data.
Also, companies shouldn't be able to refuse service just because the prospective customer's biometric data was leaked/stolen/duplicated in the past. I mean, when you think about it that's some Twilight Zone or Black Mirror territory.
- Perhaps it is time to return to meatspace for verifiably real interactions.
by iugtmkbdfil834
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- The interesting thing is that the issue is real, but that issue is artificially created. If we had the will, we could technically stop it today. Separately, there is too much money to be made ( or ,at least, people with the money think there is, which effectively amounts to the same thing ) and, unless corrected, it is obvious which way corporates will pick.
The good news is: this is the one tech that can be relatively easily stopped, if we so choose. Compared to data centers, this is easy. And yet, I am not sure, if it will be easy enough for most to care about.
- Is there any technical solution to these centralized ID authorities doing sybil attacks and minting identities out of nothing to manufacture consensus on supposedly "human verified" sites?
by bradleysz
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- The axiom here is that both AI and the human internet are worth keeping.
Tech like World ID is scary. Agreed.
What is the better alternative? AI isn't going away and a human internet is worth preserving.
- The blind leading the blind. These companies and Sam are both devoid of any sort of ethical code aside from C.R.E.A.M.
by cantalopes
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- Necer hace i tgought i can have a job in age of jobless ai by being a human verified data scraper
- Khosla and Nilekani are to blame for this a lot more than anyone else. They got India to steamroll the iris scan in the AADHAR enrollment process and now that is used to justify every other expansion.
- Pairs well with also-on-the-front-page https://app.oravys.com/blog/mercor-breach-2026
by greenchair
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- his mark of the beast attempt # ?
- Oh, hell no!
by josefritzishere
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- Nobody wants to live in an open air prison.
by john_strinlai
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- >On April 16, it published a blueprint for how companies can grow their revenue with its digital ID.
that "blueprint", hilariously enough, starts with the title "How AI is eroding the foundations of the internet".
from a sam altman company. im afraid if i rolled my eyes any harder that they would spin out of their sockets.
by techteach00
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- KYC to breathe.
- As if I needed another reason to despise this continent. Who actually wants to uphold, work for, and build these systems in our society? This is seriously the kind of nation you want to inhabit?
by gentleman11
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- I suspect that if we don't want to live in this future, we need some major open source tech leadership around making something like an anonymous version of this
I know, not exactly an easy problem to solve, but big tech or government is going to do it if we can't find better solutions first
- This reminds me of outrage when facebook tried to create its own crypto.
- Of course they do, when the age verification morphs into real personal identification (PI) all people's habits will be known to everyone.
Time to put a stop to this PI tracking trend. But we all know PI will be tracked by all entities in the future in about 10 - 20 years.
by zingababba
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- Sama can ID my balls.
- Seems like a good point to remind that capitalism doesn't need democracy to function or survive
They have no problem helping to strangle democracy to death
by AlexandrB
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- I can't believe this idiotic project is running so long after the "blockchain for everything" mania ended. Seems like they can't believe it either since they changed their name from "Worldcoin" to just "World.
by giancarlostoro
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- Sam Altman doing his hardest to become more hated than Larry Ellison I see.
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by wjekkekene
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by throwaway613746
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- The Blockchain is back, baby!
/s
by jonathanstrange
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by frogperson
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by booleandilemma
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- I think we need less technology. Can we have a de-tech movement? Life-saving tech is fine but enough is enough with software, AI, surveillance, etc. It's too much. It's been too much for the past twenty years or so.
- I would be happy if Tinder used this tech. The Internet is unusable nowadays because of bots.
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