- Not going to claim anything regarding Anna’s Archive’s legitimacy, but what do libraries look like in the future? We’re just going to give up and say, first sale was great while we had it, but digital makes it obsolete? When you die, screw donating your collection of “licenses” to somewhere productive; those contracts died with you? Everything is streaming, so you never purchased anything anyway?
It’s crazy to me that two decades after the iTunes Store the trade and resale of digital goods isn’t protected by law.
- Why LLM companies that depended on Anna's archive end up so clean ? Looks like Anna's archive was doing the dirty work, and the LLM companies were reaping the profits (and ironically still do, as they hold the largest databases of pirated content in the world).
Is it because the law doesn't apply to you when you have 1B USD ?
- Here[1] is Anna's guide of how to run a shadow library. Opsec and networking, I found it interesting.
[1] https://software.annas-archive.gl/AnnaArchivist/annas-archiv...
- Since when does a judge in NY get to tell Greenland they can't have their registrar sell to Anna's Archive?
- The moment I saw their Spotify announcement I expected it to go bad. And they didn't even release anything from it other than metadata!
(I understand this case is about their books, but I feel it got a lot more heat due to the Spotify action.)
Please, dear Anna, don't disappear on us. We need you for the books! Plenty of sources for music around.
- If only the American justice system displayed a fraction of this same raging fervor when it came to crimes that actually caused harm to someone.
by randomtoast
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- They 100 percent sit in Russia, which will 100 percent ignore this, even if their identity gets uncovered. So it's perfectly safe to continue for the operators.
- It's one of those interesting moments where the global humanitarian good is in conflict with the law.
by b3lvedere
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- A digital Fahrenheit 451 burns a lot less bright it seems.
- Worried about is it up and what mirror to use?
This is the finest resouce I've found yet: https://open-slum.org/
Tracks the uptime and other pirate libraries...
- What if each country had a sovereign wealth fund dedicated to compensating those who have made creative works. It would be controlled by a federation of libraries or a central library,
The ‘creative goods’ would be made available to the entire countries population via a zero-information key given to each citizen, and their preservation would be ensured by the central library.
Like an ordinary library, anyone would be able to request works for accession.
The number of downloads of a certain piece of media would be tracked, and the fund would pay out accordingly. Because it would be the easiest way of getting any media and the system well-designed, piracy would be negligible (a la Steam).
You’d have to consider trans-national sharing though.
- Wikipedia is US based so does this mean they’ll stop sharing the URLs on there?
- They should create a giant AI LLM model trained on that data. Then settle with some form of payment like others did (learning from the best LOL).
Then I don´t understand why once bought a book can´t be uploaded online? If you are not engaging in a commercial activity I don´t see the issue, the book was bought is not a state secret. By that logic the cookie trackers, that literally track/spy you and that buy and sell your data for profit and more, illegally should be priority, not some books that educate people.
- Surely the funny part is that china is now miles ahead of the west and, in stead of debugging our mistakes, we look for ways to cut off our nose to spite our face.
- Next week American ISP's will block Annas-archive, people use VPN's, they get confused. The cycle goes on
by laichzeit0
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- So what stops them from just changing it to NotAnna's Archive and operating under that domain?
- Once more: Piracy is almost always a service problem, not a pricing problem.
If there was an online e-book store where you could buy most books as DRM-free epub files, and you could read the first X pages for free, I guarantee you that nobody here would care about the OP article. It would have maybe 4 or 5 upvotes.
by josefritzishere
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- AI companies can download books but people can't? Is that right?
- They're not really "hit". It's more like lashing out at thin air :)
They'll find new domains.
- Maybe they just have bad lawyers and Anthropic has good lawyers…
- This is pirate radio all over again.
by CodeWriter23
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- That should stop them.
- The publishers argued that, in addition to sharing pirated books with the public, the shadow library is serving as a primary training data hub for AI companies like Meta and NVIDIA.
So when are we seizing Meta and Nvidia's domains?
by surgical_fire
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- Anna's Archive is amazing. This is a good reminder to make another contribution to it.
by bubblegumcrisis
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- This is just another move in a game played by the tech overlords.
It has never been so obvious as now, that justice is not blind. Without justice there is anarchy.
And at this point, to be honest, I say bring it on- let's have the day of retribution before the billionaires have their AI robot armies.
- Now do Anthropic, OpenAI, et al.
by iluvcommunism
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by damnitbuilds
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- Given they already have a $322 million judgment and takedown order, they only need to worry 6% more.
Until copyright terms are fair, ~5 years not ~95 years, Pirate On !
by gothicbluebird
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- Anna's archive is a professional nonprofit business with donation tiers for terabyte bundles of stuff for greedy hoarders and llm trainers. Their style suggests they have other goals than freedom of information and reminds of the super rich wikimedia foundation always campaigning for more money.
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