by redfloatplane
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- I know it's boring to comment and say that something sounds like it was written by an AI, but this sounds like it was written by an AI. I am often especially suspicious of these listicle recommendation sites because it's pretty cheap and easy to have dozens of sites doing some list which just so happens to mention a specific service that 'quietly' does a 'surprisingly good job' of some doodad. This kind of submarine advertising feels like it might be quite common. Although in this case it seems they're trying more for a 'sponsorship' thing - 'our website got X views in Y days, sponsor us, random company!'
- You are missing https://unikraft.com/pricing. Amazing compute, 2 instances free. A German company. Offers EU hosting too. Just a happy paying user myself
by BrunoBernardino
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- As someone who tries to "buy local", I have been a happy customer of the following recommended services for many months or years:
- Hetzner (Cloud, Box, and Object Storage)
- Brevo (for transactional emails)
- Mollie
For monitoring I use and recommend UpDown.io, which doesn’t seem to be listed there.
by satvikpendem
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- On Herzner add Dokploy (Honduras, I prefer this even if it's not European) or Coolify (Hungary) to get a Vercel-like PaaS experience for free. Any others that are good?
by thinkindie
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- this website seems a clone of https://european-alternatives.eu/
Either way, one of the most critical parts is that many are still hosting on Google Cloud, AWS or Microsoft, therefore you are not 100% insulated from Cloud Act.
- From the two cloud services listed I have only experience with Hetzner Cloud (extensive) and OVHCloud (less). The other day (2 years back) when I did research on whether to use one or the other, it turned out that OVHCloud did not have any reasonable user management, ie. you would need to do all the machine acquisition under one 'root' account. That was a deal breaker and the reason why going with Hetzner Cloud felt more natural. I can still confirm that the choice was good from my perspective.
I wonder if anything changed WRT to user management in OVHCloud and how does it compare to other platforms.
by CodesInChaos
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- > passkeys, the modern way to handle login that gets rid of password resets entirely
Doesn't that just trade password resets for passkey resets? Or do they permanently lock out users who lose their passkey?
- Thanks for listing Hanko as EU-based authentication provider.
To be upfront about this, we’re still on AWS (Frankfurt), but "EU-owned" hosting/data regions will be available very soon.
- For a bootstrapper's computeless log search solution using Duckdb and s3 compatible store, use Blobsearch (https://github.com/amr8t/blobsearch)
- I would be interested to learn more about Mollie as an alternative to Stripe. I saw that it has some Subscription API endpoints, but I am not sure how it compares in real life to Stripe. How much would I need to build myself in a classical Ruby on Rails SaaS app compared to pay gem/stripe?
Are there any reference implementations for any of mainstream programming language and web development frameworks for this use-case?
- I read this, and the list is fine. But the title made me think VPS + self hosting of services like xmox for email/transactional email… you know since we’re bootstrapping and all.
- But what laptop do you access it from?
Apple is more a service provider than a hardware vendor these days. You can't realistically own Apple hardware without periodically connecting to Apple.
- I don't think that's an alternative to US hyperscalers. Scaleway is the closest thing there is. Replacing a single service with 10 others is not really an alternative in my opinion.
by embedding-shape
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- What about DNS buying/hosting? Seems it's not mentioned (neither is emailing besides transactional/marketing). I'm currently on DNSimple but been trying to replace it with some closer to home (Europe) alternative that still offers the same level of possible automation as DNSimple does, anyone know of any that fits the bill?
- Interesting, I looked into some of these types of services for my SaaS but used none of the listed providers except Mollie. I landed on IONOS for hosting, Scaleway for transactional mails, mailbox.org for receiving and sending manual mails and statichost.eu for hosting my docs.
by kevinkatzke
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- Happy to see my friends from Hanko on the list, they are great and you should really try their privacy-first authentication.
by hollow-moe
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- Have a look to OVH VPS their offers are real cheap and if you're not scarred of openstack they have this too.
by pickleballcourt
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- Haven’t used herzner but heard good things
- cbk.ai - nearly 100% eu with a few small exceptions we will finish migrating by the end of Q3
by haarolean
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- Creem is just a MoR layer on top of Stripe. Not really an EU alternative.
- Interesting. Wonder if they have competitive pricing on GPU instances.
by gyanchawdhary
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- Fremdschämen
- I thought I will find GetResponse there, but they are fucking greedy!
by aplomb1026
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by selectively
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- any good reason to serve the EU? I am observing through various SaaS and support tickets and EU seem no average way more finicky and stingy than North American customers not to mention the absurd level of EU regulations you have to follow just to serve the same product at a much higher cost.
It's like a bad mix of culture (bordering on arrogance and pathological in some bad cases) and over regulation.
I always advise clients to avoid the EU at launch and focus on UK if they really want to do a test run and encourage them to focus on East Asia instead.
You'd think Europe is this affluent and sophisticated customer demographic but again and again from data I see it couldn't be further from the truth.
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