by shakalandy
4 subcomments
- Hetzner Founder and CEO Martin Hetzner shared a response to the critics in the Hetzner Forum (user benji) over here: https://forum.hetzner.com/index.php?thread/32635-standardisi...
Translated from German via Claude:
"For better understanding, I would like to provide some additional notes: Hetzner Online's pricing strategy has remained unchanged for many years. Our prices are based on the respective purchasing conditions as well as internal operating costs. The key pricing factors — for example, depreciation periods and profit margins — have remained constant over many years and will continue to do so.
The past nine months were an exception. During this period, we have increasingly subsidized new server hardware and passed on the increased purchasing costs to our customers only with significant delay. We are currently observing a similar development at numerous other data center operators as well.
The increased purchasing prices will likely lead to a new market level. However, our established price-performance ratio will change as a result only temporarily — if at all — until the market has adjusted to the new conditions. Hetzner Online has always stood for an outstanding price-performance ratio, and that will not change in the future either.
I am convinced that the current hardware crisis will neither sustainably improve nor worsen our competitive position. Rather, I expect that our relative position in the market will hardly change even within the new pricing structure. In the short term, shifts may indeed occur, since the individual market participants make their price adjustments at different points in time. In the medium and long term, however, I do not expect any significant changes to the competitive landscape."
by binarymax
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- This is just the reality of hardware costs now. RAM and Disk are scarce, prices have skyrocketed.
I wonder how much leverage the hyperscalers like AWS/GCP/Azure have on their own supply chain to keep costs level in their clouds.
by eugenekolo
7 subcomments
- It really is an absolute massive jump. Have no clue what's going on in the back to warrant a 3x increase... 25-50%, sure.. but 3x is wild.
- There can only be so many "I saved 10x by moving to Hetzner" posts before they pick up the value they were leaving on the table...
- The new prices are here: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi...
(However, Hetzner did an earlier price increase 38 days ago. HN's submission logic sends posting the url to the previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48306066)
- New prices: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/infrastructure-and-availabi...
Old prices: https://web.archive.org/web/20260513201413/https://docs.hetz...
by littlecranky67
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- They price hiked my existing CCX13 from 16€ to 43€ - that is a 2.6x price increase (!). Technically they didn't increase it yet, for as long as I don't order a new one or rescale (up/down) they let me use the old price. This is insane (it is a cloud server, with 2 dedicated cores and 8 GB RAM).
- It seems like what's missing here is lower cost plans, because the existing plans had been fairly affordable, but now they're basically triple.
The least expensive one seems to be CPX11, old price $6.99, new price $20.49. That's 2GB RAM, 40GB SSD. RAM and SSD are now much more expensive, fair enough, but maybe I don't need all that for my mostly-idle VM, so then where's the plan with ~0.67GB RAM and ~13GB SSD for the old price?
- I use to be a huge Hetzner fan but it doesn't appear they have launch any new hardware in the past 3-years.
One of the reasons why I loved Hetzner so much is that you could always get the latest generation hardware ... but unless I have missed it - it seems like their hardware hasn't been refreshed in awhile.
(Still really like them, just wish they had dedicated servers in the US as well)
EDIT: maybe what I use in hardware is uncommon, but have been wanting an update to their AX102 line
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax102-u/
- "Fun" times for services selling micro-VMs running on top of Hetzner bare metal machines for a small margin. 3x increase in input pricing with essentially no notice (there was a 2 weeks notice of "we will change pricing" but no details. People assumed a max of 50% increase, I guess, not 3x)
- If you personally need it there is still time to get cheaper ones off auction:
https://www.hetzner.com/sb/#ram_from=256
Yeah mostly old CPUs, but considering RAM shortages gonna be much cheaper than colocation.
PS: link contains 256GB RAM filter since I guess OP need RAM.
- Getting close to losing any point of them existing. They were the cheap one. You take that away and their unique offering vanishes and makes them pretty pointless to even consider as a provider. Really hope they can sort out something for their hardware sourcing as this isn't sustainable.
- Seems like it doesn't apply to older machines, I have AX41-NVMe, it's not on the list, I also didn't get any notification from them (and they usually send some) - no need to panic if you're longterm customer.
- I use a cheapo VPS there to host some git repositories. It's going from $6.99/mo to $20.49. Who in their right mind would pay that for a 2 core/2 GB VPS? It makes me wonder if they are trying to shed some unwanted customers.
- As a long term metal customer, I understood the need to raise prices for energy usage.... but for disk/ram I'm struggling to be sympathetic. The hardware I am using is already procured by them, and until such time there is a hardware failure I cannot support a price rise, because were is their justification for existing hardware?
- I am no environmental activist, but Hetzner's carbon footprint is so much worse than the rest that it's hard to ignore. I've always avoided them as a matter of principle.
Two of their 3 datacenters are located in Germany, which has some of the worst carbon emissions in Europe due to their stubborn refusal of nuclear and reliance on coal/gas.
As I write this, we're talking 20x higher carbon intensity compared to France or the Nordics (https://app.electricitymaps.com/).
Besides carbon, coal-related air pollution is responsible for dozens of thousands of early deaths per year in Europe, and Germany has 6 of the top 10 worst offending plants. Until they fix that (not anytime soon), it's not a country that should be hosting foreign workloads on top of their national needs.
Hetzner seem to have a DC in Finland, which can only be better. Not sure if prices are competitive.
Scaleway and OVH are good alternatives if you want to host in Western Europe.
- Prices are going insane, and I am going for an alternative provider in the US.
I have 5 app nodes, 2 background workers, 1 DB replica, and 4 dev/staging instances.
On new Hetzner US pricing:
5 x CCX23 (app nodes): $514.95/mo
2 x CCX13 (workers): $101.98/mo
1 x CCX23 (DB replica): $102.99/mo
4 x CX33 (dev/staging): $39.96/mo
Total: ~$759/mo or $9,108/year
On 3HCloud with equivalent specs:
5 x 16 GB 4 vCPU dedicated: $160/mo
2 x 8 GB 2 vCPU dedicated: $32/mo
1 x 16 GB 4 vCPU dedicated: $32/mo
4 x 4 GB 2 vCPU shared: $24/mo
Storage ~250 GB total (SSD smart): ~$7.50/mo
Total: ~$255/mo or $3,066/year
I will let you do the math.
by MinimalAction
4 subcomments
- I understand this is ultimately due to AI boom.
A couple of naive questions:
1. What's the bottleneck in ramping up RAM production? Is it the availability of silicon itself? Or the factories are at capacity?
2. Is this supposed to ease up despite the AI boom? Definitely would ease up if busted.
- Hetzner dramatically increased prices for new and rescaled instances starting 15th of June, 2026; 8 AM CEST.
For orders placed before 15 June 2026, but delivered after 15 June 2026, the previous prices will apply.
by pocksuppet
1 subcomments
- The last price increase was 5-10%. This one is a 150% increase. Goodbye Hetzner. The old version of you will be missed.
by zenapollo
3 subcomments
- Contabo, an even cheaper alternative to Hetz, raised prices this month as well by 30-35% as well. Just noting it here because i couldn’t any info elsewhere.
by xslvrxslwt
1 subcomments
- Hetzner has long been affordable due to its subpar latency and protection, making this price increase very questionable. No one has real reason to choose hetzner if it is not affordable. OVH ends it, one Romanian provider as well.
- It had already been announced end of May that there would be a change: https://www.hetzner.com/pressroom/standardization-and-price-...
- They are also becoming greedy. I rent their 20GB VRAM instance GEX44, for which they now ask a 500 euro one-time setup fee. Whereas it was something like 60 euros a year ago.
- Hetzner could win back some of that love if they release the long-rumoured managed Postgres offering at a price that undercuts most of the competition.
- Similar providers (heroku, aws) haven't increased their compute/ram/ec2/dyno prices recently; why is Hetzner's increase so massive (> 3-4x) - wouldn't increased hardware costs affect everyone else too?
- Oracle cut their Always Free ARM offering in half CPU & memory-wise, Hetzner is increasing prices by up to 300%. I think that this is going to push even more people to pick up a mini PC and forward ports to it on their LAN.
- This continuing trend is going to do a fantastic job of ensuring fewer and fewer individuals can launch casual projects and gating (non-VC) startups to those who already have the means.
- Wow. This is crazy. And not only much more expensive but the standardization means you have to buy more disk if you e.g. just need more RAM or similar.
And does the standardization mean that I can no longer buy extra hardware?
https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/dedicated-se...
by pelagicAustral
1 subcomments
- For EU-based ops I moved to UpCloud, they have top customer service and their offerings are far more complete than Hetzner... Plus, they have more zones.
- It's been a struggle to allocate cost-optimized VPS at them for months now (in some regions), they were very often out-of-stock.
- "applies to new orders"
big sigh of relief
So glad I got all I needed recently.
- I just used Claude to convert my app to a serverless architecture and migrated to Cloudflare and their generous tiers. Not every app fits that model, but it's more than you'd think. Now I only pay when the app is used, not a penny more.
by handzhiev
2 subcomments
- Are the existing customers grandfathered to the old prices (at least for now)? I don't see the increase in my account.
by declan_roberts
0 subcomment
- I built a new computer with lots of RAM and a nice NVMe drive about a year ago, and I feel like I hit the jackpot with timing.
But just like a low-interest rate mortgage, I'm going to be stuck with this thing for a long time, it seems.
- This is crazy. I just got the CCX33 last week to migrate a Heroku db to it, that seems to have jumped over 100% now…? Need to reconsider
Edit: just noticed this is not retroactive. Still concerning looking forward.
- Anyone know why? Some of the tiers more than doubled in price, that's pretty insane.
- Time to optimize your software stack. Stop using slow interpreted languages & bloated "scaling" setups in favour of tightly integrated natively compiled systems.
- AI is no different from machine doing what took people earlier. In fact on the scale of many other things (spinning Jenny that could replace dozens, for one) this is probably benign. Because it also multiplies costs. Earlier innovations not only did it faster with less manpower, they did it cheaper too!
We are still around, enjoying fairly decent lifestyles for the most part, if you take away effect of politics, governance etc.
by patrickdavey
1 subcomments
- I haven't looked into it thoroughly yet, but, at some point it'll be worth looking at getting a static IP address and using Cloudflare tunnels to serve toyish projects from your home netwerk. Just need to work out how to firewall it properly from the rest of the home network.
by BaudouinVH
0 subcomment
- I faintly seem to remember that Netcup is using Hetzner hardware at lower prices.
https://www.netcup.com/en/server
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by winterbourne
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- This gives permission for all other providers to do the same.
by noIdeaTheSecond
0 subcomment
- As a european and person valuing my privacy I wanted to chose an European provider, so far not impressed with their customer service...
- Previously discussed 18 days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48306066
- There are large (x2, x3) price rises for US based servers but the German / Sweedish ones show much more reasonable increases ~30%
- Buried multiple links and scrolling deep, but looks like they're tripling prices for cloud servers in the US.
What's the next best option now?
- Wow this is a brutal price increase for a lot of plans, at least it appears old user instance prices are grandfathered unless you rescale them.
- I’m running a cheap VPS on hetzner. Wanted to bump up my plan but they are out of capacity for some of their plans. Demand is brutal.
by AussieWog93
0 subcomment
- Another commenter mentioned this is about a huge leap in RAM and disk prices.
But why did the the CX33 only go up by €2 whereas the CPX32 went up by €21.50?
Both have 8GB of RAM, but the CPX32 has 80GB more storage and a bigger slice of CPU time.
You can see the same trend with CX23 vs CPX22.
In fact, CPX22 is now more than twice the price of CX23, despite having the same amount of disk and half the RAM.
Is there a CPU shortage now too?
by AltruisticGapHN
0 subcomment
- Damn. I set up a 2vCPU 4GB RAM VPS on Linode for my web app (Linode 4GB). Was ready to move there. Then I found Hetzner has servers in the US and I could get more for my budget (~30$/month). Not anymore!
CPX22 (2vCPU 4GB) seems to be the exact same price as Linode 4GB (24$/month).
Linode dashboard is really good.
by Implicated
0 subcomment
- Just throwing it out there I've got an AX162-R (48c EPYC) with 128GB additional memory (384GB DDR5 total) that's been running a side project of mine for a year or so... I could be talked into moving that project if someone had a need for the hardware.
by mellosouls
0 subcomment
- Shades of the recent GitHub Copilot price hikes; class-leader in value to also-ran.
I wonder if there are underlying component cost connections or just corporate politics and the cold hands of the profit-people.
by ianberdin
3 subcomments
- I say hello to every happy HN and twitter post “we moved to hetzner and saved 10X”.
I told ya about silent happiness…
- Was this announced beforehand? How do you double prices for customers so abruptly with no transition period?
- My guess is that due to AI Hetzner are having to invest heavily in GPU servers and these price increases are to allow this investment.
- I wonder how this will affect their demand considering most people use them because they’re low cost
by throwaway2037
0 subcomment
- The price changes in Europe look reasonable, but US/SG are wild.
- Well we are officially fucked. That's some increase, not angry against hetzner they might have been forced, but man is this sad.
I built a homelab before the crisis started which might allow me to survive this for the next few years.
But man am I sad about folks trying to build new projects.
- I was shopping for this past weekend. I found a 16core 128gb-ram(1!) unit for 110€/month with a competitor. Crazy deal. I suspected it to be a mistake, but after 24 hours it actually came online. Runs very smooth.
by packetsent
0 subcomment
- Looks like my AX162 isn't being retired anytime soon...
AX162 (256GB) went from €274 -> €844
- I've had pretty good experiences with GTHost: https://gthost.com/
by fuckinpuppers
0 subcomment
- Holy shit this is a big bump on a lot of them.
I’m so tired of this timeline. Rich people pillaging everything, governments happily allowing it, cost of living rising everywhere, a lot of environmental improvements have been put on pause (to prioritize profits for the aforementioned people)
Everything keeps going up.
by bojangleslover
1 subcomments
- "Death of personal computing"
Renewed M1 Mac in 2026: <$400
Entry level MacBook in 2006: $1099
This hardware price spike is just a blip.
- They are out of Ampere cloud instances as well. Where is a good place to get Ampere instances with similar cost and stability?
- AI seems to be ruining every single major thing that drove economic growth for the past 4 decades. PCs, the Web, software in general, high-capacity servers, Raspberry Pis and so on. The next thing to be affected will probably be smartphones. All of these things are foundations of profitable businesses right now and we are destroying them on the mere promise to get to some idiotic utopia in the future.
- I'll happily pay the new prices, if they actually have the servers available. Cheap pricing is nice, but not that useful when in practice you can't actually buy most of the time.
- Not ragebait, actual question. Isn't this kind of scenario exactly the kind of thing where capitalism is supposed to generate a lot of competition that makes everything higher quality and cheaper for the end consumer?
There is giga hyper demand for various computing products and this will likely continue for many years to come - is it likely that we will have some serious competitors to the big manufacturers (for evertyhing from silicon to the end products) a couple of years from now? Or is that unlikely based on the sheer expertise, capital, and time needed to get something out the door?
- I hope this doesn't hit the other servers, did they announce anything on why this increase happened? I would hate to need to move elsewhere
by Aldipower
2 subcomments
- And the worst for my setup, there is no more ECC RAM available in their offers. At least not unless you pay an insane amount of cash..
- I see that (new) EX44 servers are now 50% more expensive than before, ouch. Although there's none available anyway.
- Me, a german, looking at my CAX11: this doesn't seem too bad
Americans:
- Price hike in Germany is minimal comparing to other DCs. Anyone knows why?
- So happy I came across this. Need to rethink a few projects.
by beratbozkurt0
0 subcomment
- I've only been using this a lot for a few months now. I'm sorry to see this.
- Price adjustment?! They just doubled their prices in some instances.
- what's a good hetzner alternative for US?
i'm currently using their hillsboro instances.
i'm not going to pay 3-4x more.
by zsoltkacsandi
9 subcomments
- Correct me if I am wrong, but AI made software development and operations more expensive than before. Yes, it is faster too, but the question: is it worth the price? Can the users consume new features in that pace?
- So are Hetzer VMs now only 1/2 the price of AWS rather than 1/5?
- I don't get it, I have server for 5 years, its old hardware, nothing changed, why would they increase it?
by noodlesUK
2 subcomments
- This is such disappointing news. I was planning on migrating some of our workloads to hetzner specifically to take advantage of the AX162 pricing which was incredibly competitive.
Does anyone else have any suggestions for competitive pricing for this kind of thing (e.g. batch jobs)? Was this applied retrospectively to existing customers?
by AmazingTurtle
0 subcomment
- I am now moving my stuff to cloudflare. Worker, Pages, R2, D1, heck even Hyperdrive with Neon or Supabase.
- A very welcome price hike
- "price adjustment" isnt 2x+ price adjustment is like 5% or 10%
by HackerThemAll
0 subcomment
- I tried to sign up to Hetzner services once. They wanted photo of my government ID, and almost all my personal data, full dossier. So I abstained.
None of OVH, GCP, AWS, Azure wanted so much data about me, and I run my services in all of them successfully. Not in Hetzner.
Sorry Hetzner, you're too data-hungry. Nothing you say justifies that.
- "First you corner the market, then you raise the prices" - Walter White
- It is sucking away electricity from cities, making hardware costly for common user, pumping heat into global atmosphere, taking away jobs, creating massive amount of slop, killing human motivation for creativity, making academics and exams harder, creating fakes that are undetectable, filling internet with plastic content, pumping tons of unmaintainable code, wrecking websites ...
Still - AI is a great achievement?
- When will people realize that Hetzner is not a good company? It is pretty bad to its customers.
by hyperionultra
0 subcomment
- We can't factor out greed from this increase. Vote with your wallet! Please.
- The solution I think is to tell all of them starting with clouds to go fuck themselves (where possible of course) and start self hosting. I do this for years and am totally happy. I was also hosting on Hetzner and was thinking to do it again for some (not all) services but not with this new wonderful deal.
- Is there a summary of price increases?
- Moving my crap onto an old laptop and some kind of tunnel thing ... tomorrow.
Those are some huge increases.
by dcchambers
1 subcomments
- Most people IN TECH still don't realize how much hardware prices are going to continue to increase, much less the 95% of the population that's completely unplugged from what's going on with AI-driven hardware demand.
All of these price increases are going to get passed down to consumers eventually via increased prices.
- Everything is getting stupider by the day.
Tech is killing itself until this idiotic bubble bursts.
Then we'll be in a decade of drought again like 2001
- Ah yes the bait and switch. Didn't take long. Win some market share from unhappy AWS customers, hike the prices later
by totallygeeky
0 subcomment
- Little bit of number crunching shows that the median increase is 112%, so a 2.12x increase. Median for GER/FIN region is 120%, USA region is 157%, and Singapore is 71%.
Worst of all increases is the Euro pricing for USA plan CPX41 with a 209% increase, or 3.09x.
Raw number comparison for those interested:
Tried to format it to be readable but its
[Plan] [Old Hourly] [New Hourly] [Percent Change] [Old Monthly] [New Monthly] [Percent Change]
Germany (FSN/NBG) / Finland (HEL) Euro
Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
CAX11 0.0072 0.0096 33.33% 4.49 5.99 33.41%
CAX21 0.0128 0.0168 31.25% 7.99 10.49 31.29%
CAX31 0.0256 0.0336 31.25% 15.99 20.99 31.27%
CAX41 0.0505 0.0657 30.10% 31.49 40.99 30.17%
CCX13 0.0256 0.0689 169.14% 15.99 42.99 168.86%
CCX23 0.0505 0.1378 172.87% 31.49 85.99 173.07%
CCX33 0.1001 0.2219 121.68% 62.49 138.49 121.62%
CCX43 0.2003 0.4423 120.82% 124.99 275.99 120.81%
CCX53 0.4006 0.855 113.43% 249.99 533.49 113.40%
CCX63 0.6001 1.3678 127.93% 374.49 853.49 127.91%
CPX22 0.0128 0.0312 143.75% 7.99 19.49 143.93%
CPX32 0.0224 0.0569 154.02% 13.99 35.49 153.68%
CPX42 0.0408 0.1114 173.04% 25.49 69.49 172.62%
CPX52 0.0585 0.161 175.21% 36.49 100.49 175.39%
CPX62 0.0809 0.2083 157.48% 50.49 129.99 157.46%
CX23 0.0064 0.0088 37.50% 3.99 5.49 37.59%
CX33 0.0104 0.0136 30.77% 6.49 8.49 30.82%
CX43 0.0192 0.0256 33.33% 11.99 15.99 33.36%
CX53 0.036 0.0473 31.39% 22.49 29.49 31.12%
Germany (FSN/NBG) / Finland (HEL) Dollar
Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
CAX11 0.0088 0.0112 27.27% 5.49 6.99 27.32%
CAX21 0.0152 0.02 31.58% 9.49 12.49 31.61%
CAX31 0.0296 0.04 35.14% 18.49 24.99 35.15%
CAX41 0.0593 0.0777 31.03% 36.99 48.49 31.09%
CCX13 0.0296 0.0809 173.31% 18.49 50.49 173.07%
CCX23 0.0593 0.1626 174.20% 36.99 101.49 174.37%
CCX33 0.1186 0.2612 120.24% 73.99 162.99 120.29%
CCX43 0.2364 0.5216 120.64% 147.49 325.49 120.69%
CCX53 0.4727 1.0088 113.41% 294.99 629.49 113.39%
CCX63 0.7083 1.6138 127.84% 441.99 1006.99 127.83%
CPX22 0.0152 0.0368 142.11% 9.49 22.99 142.26%
CPX32 0.0256 0.0673 162.89% 15.99 41.99 162.60%
CPX42 0.0481 0.1314 173.18% 29.99 81.99 173.39%
CPX52 0.0689 0.1907 176.78% 42.99 118.99 176.79%
CPX62 0.0953 0.2452 157.29% 59.49 152.99 157.17%
CX23 0.008 0.0104 30.00% 4.99 6.49 30.06%
CX33 0.0128 0.016 25.00% 7.99 9.99 25.03%
CX43 0.0224 0.0296 32.14% 13.99 18.49 32.17%
CX53 0.0425 0.0561 32.00% 26.49 34.99 32.09%
USA (ASH/HIL) Euro
Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
CCX13 0.0272 0.0697 156.25% 16.99 43.49 155.97%
CCX23 0.0545 0.1402 157.25% 33.99 87.49 157.40%
CCX33 0.1042 0.2259 116.79% 64.99 140.99 116.94%
CCX43 0.2083 0.4479 115.03% 129.99 279.49 115.01%
CCX53 0.4167 0.863 107.10% 259.99 538.49 107.12%
CCX63 0.625 1.3782 120.51% 389.99 853.49 118.85%
CPX11 0.0096 0.028 191.67% 5.99 17.49 191.99%
CPX21 0.0192 0.0513 167.19% 11.99 31.99 166.81%
CPX31 0.0336 0.1001 197.92% 20.99 62.49 197.71%
CPX41 0.0625 0.1931 208.96% 38.99 120.49 209.03%
CPX51 0.125 0.3814 205.12% 77.99 237.99 205.15%
USA (ASH/HIL)Dollar
Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
CCX13 0.032 0.0817 155.31% 19.99 50.99 155.08%
CCX23 0.0641 0.165 157.41% 39.99 102.99 157.54%
CCX33 0.1234 0.266 115.56% 76.99 165.99 115.60%
CCX43 0.246 0.528 114.63% 153.49 329.49 114.67%
CCX53 0.492 1.0184 106.99% 306.99 635.49 107.01%
CCX63 0.738 1.642 122.49% 460.49 1014.49 120.31%
CPX11 0.0112 0.0328 192.86% 6.99 20.49 193.13%
CPX21 0.0224 0.0601 168.30% 13.99 37.49 167.98%
CPX31 0.04 0.1178 194.50% 24.99 73.49 194.08%
CPX41 0.0745 0.2267 204.30% 46.49 141.49 204.35%
CPX51 0.1482 0.4479 202.23% 92.49 279.49 202.18%
Singapore (SIN) Euro
Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
CCX13 0.0441 0.0865 96.15% 27.49 53.99 96.40%
CCX23 0.0825 0.1739 110.79% 51.49 108.49 110.70%
CCX33 0.1554 0.2796 79.92% 96.99 174.49 79.91%
CCX43 0.286 0.5465 91.08% 178.49 340.99 91.04%
CCX53 0.613 1.0449 70.46% 382.49 651.99 70.46%
CCX63 1.0048 1.661 65.31% 626.99 1,036.49 65.31%
CPX12 0.0128 0.0248 93.75% 7.99 15.49 93.87%
CPX22 0.0256 0.0425 66.02% 15.99 26.49 65.67%
CPX32 0.0521 0.0785 50.67% 32.49 48.99 50.78%
CPX42 0.0897 0.1498 67.00% 55.99 93.49 66.98%
CPX52 0.125 0.2155 72.40% 77.99 134.49 72.45%
CPX62 0.161 0.2756 58.42% 100.49 171.99 58.43%
Singapore (SIN) Dollar
Product OLDHR NEWHR Δ%HR OLDMTH NEWMTH Δ%MTH
CCX13 0.0521 0.1017 95.20% 32.49 63.49 95.41%
CCX23 0.0969 0.2051 111.66% 60.49 127.99 111.59%
CCX33 0.1835 0.3301 79.89% 114.49 205.99 79.92%
CCX43 0.3373 0.6442 90.99% 210.49 401.99 90.98%
CCX53 0.7235 1.2332 70.45% 451.49 769.49 70.43%
CCX63 1.1851 1.9607 65.45% 739.49 1,223.49 65.45%
CPX12 0.0152 0.0288 89.47% 9.49 17.99 89.57%
CPX22 0.0296 0.0497 67.91% 18.49 30.99 67.60%
CPX32 0.0617 0.0929 50.57% 38.49 57.99 50.66%
CPX42 0.1058 0.1763 66.64% 65.99 109.99 66.68%
CPX52 0.1482 0.254 71.39% 92.49 158.49 71.36%
CPX62 0.1899 0.3253 71.30% 118.49 202.99 71.31%
- That's the difference between European and US companies and that's exemplification of the problem that Europe has. A big problem.
Firstly, Hetzner is really great, they have good service, good offers, they are rock solid, they shine especially in dedicated servers area - often better than all the cloud fad for many, many applications that does not need to scale crazily.
Having said that...
They expanded to a certain level and... just stopped. They do not have services that are making AWS/Azure attractive (all this identity/security stuff, MS Exchange like functionality), they are not even providing any viable messaging service, etc. Basic stuff.
As a result, companies who would even like to use them because they are solid, reliable, etc. simply can't, as Hetzner is missing basic services from business perspective.
So, they are not able to jump to the first league, have big customers, make big money, be able to invest into custom chips/infra, they are 100% dependent on US and Chinese providers. When something happens, like certain hardware shortage they are on the mercy of others and stop being able to compete.
Frankly, I don't fully get what the problem is. Luck of founders with vision, all those Jobs, Wozs, Zukerbergs, Elons, Bezosses? Luck of boring but effective CEOs (people like Eric Schmidt or Satya Nadella)?
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by theturtletalks
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- Ok
by theturtletalks
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- I was signing up for Hetzner years ago and it asked me to upload my passport to use their service.
At that same time, I was reading about this story about WireCard. It was like Stripe for Europe and worth billions. Turns out it was run by a Russian spy network and was all a sham. That video alleged Germany’s bureaucracy is filled with Russian agents and this can be traced back to the East/West Berlin days.
To save a few bucks a month over DO didn’t seem worth it to me to send my passport to a foreign country.
by baba_vanga
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- "And at that time, that's what everybody did. If a hotel wanted electricity, they had their own electric generator. And I looked at this, and I thought, this is what computation is like today. Everybody has their own data center. And that's not gonna last. It makes no sense. You're gonna buy compute off the grid. That's AWS."
- Jeff Bezos
There are just 3 or 4 DDRAM manufacturers (SK Hynix, Samsung, Micron). They fully intend to make it impractical to purchase a server outside of the hyperscalers.
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