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EU to soon classify AWS and Azure as gatekeepers under DSA

60 points by snowpid

by enz

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> The trigger was outages in cloud services with sometimes significant impacts on other internet services. Shortly before, an approximately 15-hour outage of the AWS cloud in the US meant that not only Amazon's own streaming services but also Atlassian, Docker, Epic Games, and the Signal messenger were unavailable or severely restricted.
If I remember correctly, it was a us-east-1 issue specifically. Why is everyone hosted in us-east-1, especially in Europe where stable and reliable regions are available (eu-west-1, eu-west-3, ...)?

by josephh

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If a multinational utility operates power grids in both the EU and the US, and a European company chooses to import power from the US grid, I don't know why EU would penalize the utility when the US grid has an outage. They really should be penalizing their European entities for failing to architect a local redundancy.
If EU's going to use this as an excuse to designate them as gatekeepers, maybe they should just block EU accounts from provisioning resources outside of Europe. These providers are taking all the blame for architectural decisions made entirely by their customers.

by CodesInChaos

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A good target for regulation of those clouds would be the inflated traffic pricing.
Either by a simple price limit on ordinary egress (e.g. max 1 EUR / TB to European providers which don't charge for peering/traffic), or by requiring them to peer at-cost with others and allowing the customers to choose such a peering for egress.
The current traffic pricing is extremely high, and makes it difficult to split your cloud installation between multiple providers.

by dbvn

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How could a cloud provider *not* qualify as a gatekeeper under these guidelines?

by itopaloglu83

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It’s a very thin and a political line between being a gatekeeper and a very successful company.
Are we soon going to say Spotify, ASML, and Carl Zeiss are also gatekeepers?