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Epoll vs. io_uring in Linux

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by toast0

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> But my students weren’t as happy as I was - they wanted to build something genuinely useful, and they were really disappointed that our “product” had strong architectural limits and couldn’t outperform titans like nginx and haproxy.
I took a (very brief) look at the github repo [1], it doesn't look like you're doing anything with cpu pinning.
You can probably eke (thanks) out a bit more performance if you cpu pin your threads and cpu pin your listen sockets (sockopt SO_INCOMING_CPU).
If you also cpu align your outgoing sockets, you should get a significant boost, but afaik, there's no great api for that. Linux does have an api for compatible NICs (traffic steering/flow steering) which can work, but if you know what hash your NIC uses (it's probably toeplitz) and you manage source port selection to your backend, you can pick ports that will hash properly.
The goal is for your proxy to be able to handle packets without any cross cpu communication.
[1] https://github.com/sibexico/TinyGate

by spliffedr

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Take a look at https://github.com/concurrencykit/ck and https://github.com/microsoft/mimalloc, it will fit well for a zero-copy and mem aligned reverse proxy. Also, if you want to add a DDoS protection and more advanced L4 stuff check out https://docs.ebpf.io/ebpf-library/libxdp/libxdp/

by witx

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Such a great article!
This sent me through a rabbit hole of uring, kernel development and C. I've been a rust and c++ dev for quite a few years now, but there's such a simplicity and even artistic feel to small(ish) C programs.

by thomashabets2

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I've not yet tested the shared buffers for my io uring based web server, but that's because instead of reading from a file and writing, i send directly from a mmaped region.
But really, I want to sendfile with io_uring, but that's not supported yet.
My writeup, with extra buzzwords like Rust and kTLS: https://blog.habets.se/2025/04/io-uring-ktls-and-rust-for-ze...
It was on HN too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44980865

by buybackoff

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In the context of a proxy one should mention epoll_wait busy poll. I've recently dived into this when reviewing low-latency options, and found that it's almost possible to do user space busy polling just for simple sockets, no DPDK/VMA/io_uring needed, and Fastly contributed to this and uses it.
It's too low level, I cannot even tell that I understand everything, only the concept, so I will just share some links. It works only per NAPI epoll context, and one cannot easily control NAPI ID, but if an entire machine is dedicated for a proxy one can do a simple trick of assinging sockets by NAPI ID to dedicated pollers.
In my use case, it was not a proxy, but N socket polling on a machine that then processes received data. It does not look feasible for such case, maybe round-robin polling of NAPI contexts from a single thread may work. What I would really want to have one day from the kernel is that I can easily tell it: trust me, I will poll this single socket eventually, never ever use IRQ path for it.
Previous HN discussion of the kernel feature: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43749271 Nice presentation by the Fastly contributor, with nice diagrams making the big picture much easier to understand: https://netdevconf.info/0x18/docs/netdev-0x18-paper10-talk-s... LWN articles: https://lwn.net/Articles/1008399/, https://lwn.net/Articles/997491/, https://lwn.net/Articles/959462/ Kernel docs: https://docs.kernel.org/networking/napi.html#irq-mitigation

by inigyou

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If you write one with DPDK, it'll be infinitely more complex but you'll have the opportunity to blow away nginx in performance.
If you make one run on an FPGA you it'll be even more complex.
The lesson is that cutting through abstraction like a hot knife through butter is a necessary mindset for performance but also makes things more difficult. Sockets and thread-per-connection were good approaches when networks were very slow relative to CPUs, and they're still often the simplest approach today.

by eatonphil

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I was also always curious about this and recently wrote a few implementations of an http file server to teach myself the key differences.
https://theconsensus.dev/p/2026/05/18/serving-files-three-wa...

by mrlonglong

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Boost asio if you love C++ and asynchronous networking.

by GalaxyNova

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The year is 2050; there are 20 different ways to poll a socket on Linux.

by Uptrenda

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Yes, io_uring is significantly faster than epoll (I think I had like 20% faster req/s with io_uring.) The catch is that its kernel opt-in and disabled just about everywhere for security reasons. I think that it has direct memory sharing between the kernel and user-land which is kind of yikes. There's been multiple exploits that hit io_uring in recent times. It's because of this that even engineering projects that try to reach the highest performance possible (like Go) don't really bake io_uring in as a sane default. Though if you want to take the risk you can always run it yourself for your favourite language. It is faster but the cost is possible exploits.

by gafferongames

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Just use AF_XDP

by gilleswr

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by monkamonme

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by trowaway60621

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by up2isomorphism

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The author takes a very benchmark focus on this topic which only says part of the story particularly for complex systems. Noticed that there are a number of very similar interface that exist on other platform like windows long before io_uring, but that does make Linux’s I/O system worse or slow than these platforms. A fast server is likely fast in either multiplexing or async API if implemented correctly in almost all cases.