- I had preview access to this one for a few weeks. It's very good. I had one conversation that lasted a full hour while I was walking the dog, got some good brainstorming done against one of my projects.
The best feature is that it can delegate questions out to GPT-5.5 in the background, so you're no longer restricted to a voice model that's several years behind the frontier.
I did report a fun bug with it though: it was interrupting me and laughing at my (not really intended as) jokes while I was still talking! They seem to have clamped that behavior down thankfully, it felt a bit rude and condescending.
by jonstaab
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- This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them.
I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots
by artdigital
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- What I’m missing from this announcement is the capability to use connectors and tools. I don’t really get it - NONE of the frontier assistants can use tools / connectors while in voice mode - Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok. It seems so obvious: I want to be able to research stuff, pull up documents, jot down notes and do productive work while I’m talking to it, and not end voice mode whenever I need to connect to an app or service.
It’s weird. The old Claude voice mode WAS able to use tools but when they revamped it, it lost that capability and is now pinned to Haiku :(
So, yay for finally a voice mode that’s powered by a frontier model and hopefully as good as Grok voice, but sad to still not see tool use while in voice mode.
(I haven’t tried it yet, only read the announcement)
- Like a lot of AI things, this seems both cool and kind of creeps me out. I've never used voice interfaces in the past (siri, the google one, whatever is on my tv) so I'm probably not the target market, but this does seem like an improvement.
The part that creeps me out is, we're living in an era where we're more disconnected from each other than ever before. Do we really need to be replacing conversations?! The demonstration video of old ladies sort of hints at something for me, which I think we already have a societal problem with the way we treat the elderly (and a massive elderly-loneliness issue) and there's kind of a sadness of imagining people becoming really close with this machine that doesn't really think. Definite ick factor.
by miki123211
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- Once this gets video capabilities and is ported to glasses, it'll be a major revolution for blind people (and I say this as a blind person).
People have tried "smart <thing> that helps blind people navigate" since the 80s, many, many, many times, and all such projects failed. The cycle of "wow, blind people could benefit from a navigation aid, why don't I make one, if there's none around, I must surely have been the first bright university student to think of this idea" is pretty well known in the community, and I'm personally quite tired of it. Nevertheless, I think this may be the one.
Circa 2020, I have said that people who are getting a guide dog now are probably getting their last one. I think we aren't far off from that prediction coming true.
by athyuttamre
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- (Atty from OpenAI here)
GPT-Live-1 is the first version of a new generation of models, and we believe the full-duplex architecture + delegation enables entirely new ways of human-AI interaction.
Would love to hear your feedback!
by WhitneyLand
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- Much better than it was before but it’s still significantly weaker than a direct chat.
For example I asked
“Why should LLM attention use dot product instead of cosine similarity, being that we often hear vector magnitude does not encode most of the useful information needed”?
The voice response was directionally right but lacked detail and was a little hand wavy.
The answer to the same question in a text chat was much higher quality.
The voice response replied “let me think about that…” so it appears to be invoking 5.5 as advertised, but it’s definitely weaker.
I had reasoning set the same for both.
by ZeroCool2u
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- Gemini live has been able to do this for over a year now. I can just activate it on my phone and it really works surprisingly well, especially the interruption. I've tested it with my 95 year old Dutch grandmother and it switched seamlessly between English and Dutch with her and handled her poor hearing very well, including her asking for repetition.
I'm a little surprised by how much OAI is playing catch up here.
- Are there any open source full duplex models that are out besides PersonaPlex? There was a chinese open one, maybe Fun Audio chat or something, that said it was going to release a full duplex version but I am not sure if it did.
My dream would be open source full duplex with function calling or some kind of rudimentary text output. PersonaPlex is still interesting although it was looking like we would need to fine tune it to handle outgoing or avoid going off the rails easily.
by OrangeMusic
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- The ad with the grandmas is cute and funny, but from the first 20 seconds you can see that the voice annoyingly interrupts people while they are talking. It's almost as if it tries to reply too fast - faster than a real person would, and the results is that it replies while you're still talking.
Oh and there was also a small fail in the live translate demo: the grandma says "tell him that..." which the bot translates verbatim, whereas a real translator would of course understand that this is an aside not to be translated.
Well I guess at least I should be happy that they're transparent in their ads :)
by joshmarlow
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- I'm so mad that this might make me re-subscribe to ChatGPT. I wouldn't have believed how much I use the voice feature before LLMs and ChatGPT currently has the best voice interface. I think Grok's interface is the next best, then Claude.
- I'm crying, that guy who tries to get it to count to 100 may actually have a chance
by gotrythis
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- Last night, I was using voice for the first time in a few weeks, and it interrupted me and said, a bit aggressively...
"I'm going to stop you right there. Let's keep the conversation focused on the topic we were covering or a new relevant topic".
I tried to probe it for why it did that, what rules it was following, and it eventually told me...
"My role is to keep us focused..." and, "The behaviour you saw was my attempt to moderate tone".
I've heard of LLMs doing weird things like this, but it was the first time it happened to me. I hope they fix that. It was creepy.
For context, it heard my partner say, "I guess it's the same thing as you mom, because she's..." and then it cut us off.
- I am surprised that Siri has only been mentioned 5 times here, out of the current 355 comments.
I am wondering if this because Siri is so bad, people think of Siri now as a voice activation method rather than an AI assistant as it was intended.
The demo is so good, what was once a sci-fi / Iron Man Jarvis services is now real. I don't follow AI closely, but all previous iteration were at best ask and answer type of services. It wasn't real conversation. And whatever flaws it may have now, at the rate of improvement within a few iteration it will surely reach good enough stage for majority of people.
This is also scary. Not just for adults, but for kids. How they could become even more isolated.
I remember the PC era, the internet from Information Super Highway to Web 2.0 Then Smartphone. It may have been obvious to many but AI really is something much bigger than all the previous three, perhaps combined. And it is also the only one that I think is scary.
by softwaredoug
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- Does this model do better ignoring side conversations? That's the biggest hindrance to using ChatGPT's carplay feature is someone will say something, stopping ChatGPT from speaking or taking it in a different direction.
- It was obvious from the live demo that this thing still hasn't learned when to shut up. When it stops tacking on "I'm here when you need me" to every response that could have just been "ok" or simply silence, maybe they'll have something. I think voice remains OpenAI's most disappointing product.
by altcognito
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- I was hopeful that they avoided the well known sultry voice this go around, but alas. There is little hope for these companies.
The full duplex is awesome, and the feedback that it is getting what you're saying is ok, but in some of the demos was a little overkill.
I'll agree that using the "Golden Girls" was at least more entertaining than the usual pitch.
by evtothedev
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- For the first actor - why does her accent change the longer she talks. It's like they had an "Estelle Costanza" dial that they started at zero and slowly rolled up to 8 or 9.
by sonicslayer
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- This solves my biggest annoyance with the current advanced voice: its speech getting interrupted by me setting yup or even background noise if loud enough
by OsrsNeedsf2P
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- Hoping to use this for natural conversation language learning. Previous iterations of the app kept correcting my words/grammar before it got to the model, causing issues with identifying mistakes in speech
- There doesn’t seem to be any indication whether this is available in the chat-got app nor is there any indication in the app that anything has changed. Anyone know how to actually try this?
by londons_explore
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- The demo video shows quite how rough around the edges this is....
Doesn't quite stop fast enough when you interrupt it. Can't find info quick enough so you have to change topic and then have it give you results later, etc.
This is a move in the right direction, but there is lots of engineering still to be done!
- This looks very cool. An AI that can listen and speak and handle tasks without breaking the flow of conversation would solve some big annoyances with current tools.
The concern is though as these get better will people struggle to distinguish these with real human connections?
by bariswheel
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- I don't think the voice feature should act like a human, but 'complement' it. I already have friends I can talk to. Perhaps for quick answers it might be helpful but Google already does that for me and I don't have to worry about having to 'archive' the chat later and creates clutter.
I really hope at some point we can 'option click' or whatever, and choose multiple threads to archive. It takes FOREVER to archive the cluttery chats one by one. That's my one wish feature, please make batch cleanup of my client reasonably easy. Imagine having to delete one file at a time in a folder of 50 plus files. Barf.
- Oh, god. They are marketing it as an old people artificial friend. Probably will blame users in the future when they get attached and have ai-induced psychosis.
Disgraceful.
On the technological side, it's a marvel!
- I worry what this will do to human communication if it becomes commonplace. Will everyone learn to be a forceful speaker, speaking over anyone they want to stop speaking?
- I have not used voice mode much with chatgpt. I was surprised to learn that they were already not running the voice model like a UX orchestrator while utilizing other models in background for actual research/response etc. I guess it's good they launched what they could and got here in steps. I suspect in the near future my personal device (mobile/laptop) will be powerful enough to run any UX orchestrator model locally – and route to multiple frontier closed/open model providers in the background as appropriate. The battle is going to be platform owners (Apple/Google/Microsoft) wanting to lock-down the access to that local hardware and local interaction paradigms (ambient always-on full-duplex voice) and intermediate through their platform layers - rationalizing it as consumer security/privacy protection (which is right for most people, but sucks for the open market). Meanwhile I suspect OpenAI/Meta et al will try to build their own hardware and become platform owners themselves, though unsuccessfully. And it's going to take some company like epic games to get them to open that up. and that's probably what the next decade is going to be all about.
by HardCodedBias
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- While this is likely very useful to an enormous number of people, I suspect it will be even more useful for the elderly (if somehow it can be made accessible to them).
IIUC the literature, there is serious loss of functionality associated with lack of verbal interaction. People can say "they should just talk to more people" or "more people should make time for them" but the fact of the matter is that it doesn't happen, and if this helps terrific.
- Oh wow, I'd like this. Our current voice interactions with ChatGPT are on a 4o era model; really terrible. oAI has always been pretty cagey on the architecture of their end to end multimodal models. And RL has basically made them worse since launch. (Check the launch videos where the model sings, is more realtime, has accents, etc). I'd love to try a next gen version.
- A year ago I tried using the voice mode to be the worlds most over engineered golf score card: I basically said “ok I’m golfing with some friends, mind if I tell you the scores as we get them and you tell us the running totals?”
It was awful, it kept overhearing us talking and thought we were talking to it, interjecting with nonsense because it couldn’t really understand what we were talking about. And when I would say “ok render a score card” it couldn’t drop to the text interface or anything, it had to stay as voice, so it fumbled around trying to read the scores back to us.
It’s a very stupid use case but I viewed it as a stress test to see how well the voice mode and multi-modality could work. It failed miserably, but I’ll be interested to see if this new version does any better (not that I actually need this use case, writing on a card with a pencil is just fine.)
by observationist
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- The potential conversational dynamics of people telling each other "quiet!" after they pick up the habit from talking with AI will be interesting. It could lead to people being more assertive and thoughtful, or it could be contentious and rude.
Awesome that they've improved that aspect of voice chat, though.
by NikolaNovak
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- This is fascinating to me.
Whether that's due to my slight autism or massive nerdery, I don't want more realistic voice. I already switched to non-advanced voice in gpt, and I cannot imagine wanting the mmmhms, the yesses, the laughs, in my ai interaction. I want to ask a structured question and get a structured meaningful response. Informative and structured are really the KPIs. The umms and ahms of existing gpt advanced voice are annoying enough, the recent increased usage of first person almost a deal breaker (when asking for bike technique on lose surfaces yesterday, it literally gave me "back when I was learning bikes riding" story - eww).
Fascinating to see the architectural advances though, even when they deliver something I personally don't need :)
by programmertote
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- I watched the demo video. Isn't that agent's voice too hasty in responding? Maybe that's what they (OpenAI) are trying to show off as full-duplex tech, but I can't shake the feeling that I'll feel annoyed if the AI agent interrupts me when I'm speaking....
by smalltorch
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- Very cool. I thought the agent came in a little to hot at 1:03. I wonder how it decides when to jump in.
by HyperL0gi
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- I'm very eager to test this for brainstorming!
One thing I noticed is that we lost vision feature for some reason on the live chat?
This was an extremely useful feature. Not sure if it’s a regional thing or that they just removed that from the current live chat.
I imagine it will be even more useful with this new version.
by polarbearballs
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- A nightmare scenario would be that people become so accustomed to talking to agreeable AI, that they lose the inability to talk to anything that disagrees with them or has different perspectives with responses that don't include stroking the ego.
- This feels so dehumanising.
- The live translation demo reminds me of the Babel Fish in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. This could be very valuable to have in your headphones while travelling.
Not super impressed by the model constantly interrupting the user in the other demos though.
by bariswheel
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- For important and learning tasks,I would not use the voice feature as it was way too short and 'conversational'. I would use the 'record' feature and have it read the long, articulate answer to me. If this new conversation feature doesn't feel like I'm 'hanging out' with a friend, but actual longer high content answers, It'll win me over. Otherwise I thought the previous conversation mode was way too watered down and I found myself getting frustrated having to keep asking many questions to further probe down to the details. I don't know, these things don't change much, we'll see.
by taurusnoises
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- I don't have many opinions about how individuals use this tech (although the AI as friend trend is a bummer for many reasons), but have maaaany (negative) opinions about the customer service industrial complex that's already using this in what seems to be an attempt to fool people into thinking they're speaking to a real person. Which is why I now, like a freak I never thought I'd need become, always ask "Am I speaking to a bot or a human?" when dealing with CS. So far, it's worked, and the bot transfers me. But, I fear the bot will eventually be programmed to lie abiht that, as well.
by joshstrange
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- Hopefully this also means it does better with "interruptions". I have used ChatGPT Voice in the car before and sometimes car/road noises will cause it to stop responding in the middle.
I used it to help me figure out how to turn off a feature in the rental car I was in (adaptive cruise control, I love it but snow blocked the sensor and I wanted just normal cruise control but couldn't figure it out while driving).
This kind of voice chat is awesome and I'll be even more excited when open models have this functionality. I'd love something like this paired with Home Assistant (assuming we ever get decent hardware).
- I like this and felt like some of it was much more fluid; but was I alone in feeling like the interjected "uh-huh" or "yeah?" moments felt a little jarring?
Almost felt a bit *uncanny valley* for what "natural" conversation is supposed to be like. If the "uh huh" isn't timed correctly, it'll feel like a zoom call with lag.
- This is what Siri should have been.
- I have built a few voice based integrations into my applications that use these live agents (gpt and gemini), but they are always too expensive to be viable. I have to end up hacking up context and turning on and off in ways that are very fragile. It'll end up being $2-5 for about the 30ish minute sessions I typically end up with, and it throws the price of the product I'm making completely out of whack.
- It would be great if we could have AI that wasn't trying to emulate a human. When it expresses emotion, we should see that as a bug that needs to be fixed.
- Very cool. Not cool bringing Brazil’s loss to Norway again. We're already devastated. No need to keep beating someone on the ground. :(
- Some brilliant marketing really, the grandma test.
- I was missing the part where the grandmas are saying "I have absolutely no idea what I just said" :D
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Besides that really nice demo I will give this a try, I tried some voice models before and the issue is I will ask a question, get a answer withing the next ~1 sentence and then the usual LLM bs follows which I just wanted to skip at that point
- The speech is so fake sounding. Not fake technically, but like a fake/pacifying kind of person. It is a very strange tone to train for.
The model is not interested in the conversation, it is just "serving" a conversation.
Which is very different from the engagement of SOTA text models.
- Fantastic to see this. I use voice a lot. It’s not quite lived up to my expectations but I think this gets much closer.
- I looks like they took inspiration from Thinking Machines -
http://thinkingmachines.ai/blog/interaction-models/
by emilfihlman
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- I hope they fixed the models in that they don't interrupt and jump in and that you can order them to be silent. Previous model could not be silent and always cut me off and spoke over me.
- I want this in my ear when I'm talking to people, so I can carry a real conversation.
- The new architecture makes sense, it seems many of the remaining problems like noise and interruptions are at the sound processing and integration level rather than at an architectural or model level now which makes for an exciting new era.
by neko_ranger
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- Looking forward to a list of support languages. This would be amazing for language listening/speaking practice.
Yes I know it doesn't replace the talking to real people and "immersion". But cheaper than a flight
- I use AI for my job. I understand the impact (as much as anyone can) that it will have on society. I recognize the value.
But I just want to say that talking with AI casually is critically lame. I cringe every time I have to ask my Google Home to turn on the lights and people are having full-on conversations with it? And, imo, dangerous considering how sycophantic AI is. The stupidest, most gullible, most insecure person right now is looking at this thinking they are about to make a new friend.
- Absolutely can't wait to try this for language practice. The advanced voice mode is great but ultimately just doesn't work that well and doesn't have the feel of a natural conversation.
- Is this website heavily vibe coded. I tried to select text and things went black.
https://imgur.com/a/ABGWRTO
by Martinussen
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- This voice is awful, possibly one of the worst AI/computer voices I have heard in like two years now - what's up with that? Is this seriously the best a company burning this much money can do, and they consider this acceptable to release? Like two syllables in and my first response was to grimace and physically cringe. Does anyone here think this sounds good, or even just "fine enough"?
Do engineers that work on this for long periods of time stop seeing the forest for the trees and think this could be mistaken as human? I'm saying this as someone that assumes all narration/most VO work will be fully AI fairly soon (for better or worse.)...
- When GPT-Live in Codex, so i can walk the dog while shipping?
by james-mxtech
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- Reserving judgment until the actual feature is set public. The announcement post itself doesn't tell you much.
by dogscatstrees
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- I do not fully understand the complexity behind achieving full-duplex but I hope this sets the bar for Anthropic to follow. Turn-based simplex is yesterday.
by csswizardry
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- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POI5XHAU0sc
- It sounds like they've switched to a "native audio" model which if I understand right is what Gemini has had for quite a while?
- >Delegation for deeper work
Except that you can't actually delegate since connectors and tools are not supported.
by flumes_whims_
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- Do any voice models support different conversation "threads" with different context?
- GPT-Live: because what every Zoom meeting needed was an AI that can also zone out and ask you to repeat the question
by wewtyflakes
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- Great to hear about full-duplex. When using voice mode historically, it was infuriating to have the AI go on a long-winded rant or explanation and I would be shouting again and again "stop. shut up. shut up! shut up!!!"; I just needed a clean way to interrupt it.
- I used it a few times. It's weird. It reminded me of Christopher Walken with all the oddly placed pauses.
- Does this support more than one user voice? Or, are there plans for this?
I did not see that mentioned in the announcement.
- watched the live translation video very impressive
Seems like a shift from previous voice models where it sequentially processes voice to text then feeds it to LLM and then back which cant escape the clunky lag
not sure how pipecat stands now, gpt live seems like it takes audio tokens and does inference on it directly
by JimsonYang
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- I was expecting the grandma voice to be the voice model and i was like woah this is incredibly good
- Not had a chance to experiment yet, but will this be an upgrade for using AI for language learning?
by I_am_tiberius
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- Oh gosh. I was watching the video and thought it is a live stream. I just noticed when it restarted.
- Quite sad to think society will more easily be apart and develop a relation with a company bot
- Anyone else find the use of the ladies in the videos to be pretty patronising? Or just me...?
by victor9000
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- I'm at the point where pricing is the first thing I look for in announcements like this.
- How does the voice model delegate requests to GPT-5.5? Can the voice model generate text?
- I wonder why they don't compare it to their existing live voice model realtime-2.
by HeadlessChild
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- OT: This commercial video is gorgeous looking and I adore the actors!
- Can a model like this critique your accent/pronunciation? That would be cool.
by BorisMelnik
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- this is excellent, I've been meaning to update my phone-dialer.apk "fake phone conversation" for when I'm trying to get out of a social sitation (not joking)
- Is it possible to create a "companion" of sorts with this model, using, say, an RPi and a speaker + microphone? Not for advanced scientific brainstorming, but for seniors who are often alone in their homes.
- Why do I have to solve a captcha to read a blog post?
- If an idiot has this on in the subway my conversations are surveilled. What is the antidote? Train another model to talk about bombs etc. and flood the clanker (and by extension the FBI)?
- I cannot wait for the qwen version on huggingface.
- I reaaaaaally hope we have an option to disable those random ums and ahhs that interrupt for no reason. :|
by charcircuit
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- >and linked parents may be notified in higher-risk situations involving signs of potential self-harm or suicidal intent.
This is an abuse of user trust and violates people's privacy.
by small_model
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- This had to land before there new device could be launched, i.e. human to AI full duplex interaction, Apple should be worried. They fumbled so hard on AI.
by jdmoreira
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- Great video by the way. Extremely good!
- cant wait for husk irl to test this
- if I'm not mistaken - Amazon Nova Sonic has been full duplex for a while.
- This is getting way too dystopian for my taste. People in the know need to stop pushing the narrative that this is somehow anything more than statistical autocomplete.
by fnikacevic
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- Any pricing announced yet?
- At first I was really impressed, I thought granny was the voice. But it turns out it's the same kind of annoying voice and tone. And then Constance starts talking to it and it immediately cuts her off at 1:05, after they just explained it was better at conversation flow.
Seems a bit disappointing, but the 3 overlapping questions example was impressive.
by djb_hackernews
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- are these human actors or are is the whole demo AI generated?
by programjames
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- Didn't Standard Intelligence release a duplex model two years ago? Sounds disingenuous to market this as a new generation of voice models, when it is really OpenAI finally catching up to the current generation after two years.
https://si.inc/posts/hertz-dev/
- how about api access?
- ok but how many es has "beekeeper"?
- I just tried this and I find the constant interruptions infuriating: ah, alright, mh, mh-mh, go on, etc.
This means the model already reliably detected my point/question isn’t finished.
Please give me an option or dial to tone down the back channel noise.
- Haven't tried this, but talking to Claude in its app is so much better than talking to Siri that Apple should be ashamed. It got every word perfectly the first time, including programming / project management terms.
Meanwhile, Siri struggles to send basic texts to my kids.
by JasonSage
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- I for one am greatly looking forward to the day these kind of voice models can be run locally. It seems like the gap between open-weight and frontier is way larger for voice models than coding/language models.
by CrzyLngPwd
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- Her is here?
- Definitely in the right direction in terms of architecture. However those "hmmm" "uh huh" interjected in the demo are pretty awful.
- What the fuck is the rationale to make this? I can kinda see the rationale behind Facebook and social media, they _could_ be useful. But this? This is like making a nuclear bomb out in public. The world is going to get a LOT worse in the next 20 years. I am not talking about energy usage. I am talking about a society where everyone is TRULY inside their own bubble of creation.
by moralestapia
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- >GPT‑Live can show it’s paying attention with phrases like “mhmm” or “yeah” [...]
Nooooooo!
- Feel like the intro video is very odd.
Basically have an older lady (not their target audience) blatantly reading a teleprompter.
Why are they going after this audience? Retired people have no use for delegated tasks or information. They also are the least likely to use it and not get frustrated.
- GPT, now with more interruptions!
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by throwaway613746
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- With this, human translators have been totally and absolutely a solved problem with this version of real time translation.
This time is the most natural version that exists and it is a natural as a conversation.
To Downvoters: Why aren't you feeling the AGI?
- So more AI psychoses coming.
- GPT-Live being developed in california and being an over-active listener...
by nakedneuron
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- "i'm starving."
sounds cynical in my ears. energy demand of these toys will cause many problems, people elsewhere starving being one of them.