I know people like it to be light out later in the evenings, but they tried this before in the 1970s and it didn't last long[0]. It turns out not only do people not like it to be dark late into the morning, but it also makes it unsafe for kids going to school.

Looking at sunrise and sunset times[1], people will spend a significant portion of the year with dark mornings.

Historically, year-round DST was done to conserve energy during war time and other energy crunches. Standard time seems like the more balanced choice for year-round use... that's probably why it was the standard to begin with. As difficult as these things are to pass, and as disruptive as they are (especially now with software update requirements), getting it right instead of making the same mistakes of the past seems important.

[0] https://washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-...

[1] https://savestandardtime.com/maps/

I genuinely don't understand the "farmer's like DST" argument. Farmer's schedules are dictated by the sun not the time and the sun changes continuously year round. If the argument is about commercial coordination that follows the same logic of being difficult regardless given constantly shifting sunlight, at least without DST there's year-round consistency by the other businesses.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-happened-the-...

I think it’s bad for kids to have to walk to school before sunrise.

Fundamentally it is useful to have more sunlight later in the evenings in the summer. It’s also useful to have sunlight early enough in the morning for conventional “start of day” times.

Changing the clocks meets these. Yes, time is arbitrary and throughout the year we could collectively change the times we do things at to better match daylight hours but this is obviously much worse and harder to coordinate than changing the time for everyone all together’

Oh, well: whether we put the clocks back or leave them permanently off-by-one, either is better than changing them around over and over.

https://www.joshbarro.com/p/this-week-in-the-mayonnaise-clin...

https://www.daylightsmearings.com/

The shift is a relic of an older economy and damages folks' lives through worse mental health and driving outcomes [0].

[0]: https://www.coveragecat.com/blog/daylight-saving-time-car-in...

We don't need any of that.

I remember this exact debate going on in the south pacific in 2007.

Meanwhile, in the winter, the sun typically doesn't start to rise until closer to 08:00.

Now they need to get it through the Senate. Maybe we'll see something useful passed during this admin :)