I have 2 grandfathers who have been denied certain surgeries because they are too old, not because it would be dangerous, but because there are waiting lists of several years and they never get priorities. Now, none of them are in a hurry to use this procedure of course (only one mentionned going to Switzerland when he almost lost total mobility, but of course cannot afford it), but both of them are in pain, and when it will become excruciating and quality of life will converge to 0, I feel it is a much better prospect than staying for weeks in a hospital room, suffering despite the morphine, with the spouse having to book taxis for visits because of course nobody is going to pay for that.

We are talking about people who have enjoyed near 40 years of happy retirement and a slow but very steady health decline at the end, with lots of time to think and discuss this topic. To me it's a relief to think that I will have this option for myself eventually.

I find that in many different cultures nobody actually wants to talk about reality- painful, excruciating, undignified and soul crushing death. As if you collectively ignore it such things do not exist.

Suffering in silence is not a moral victory.

I am sure an App is being developed as we speak. The digital ID login will be buggy but it will be open source so you can contribute to fix the bugs before you ask to off yourself.

The thing is people have been ending their own lives or of others who can't since forever. It is actually very common.

It is like going number two, it is ugly but it is part of life. No need to have a scatophile parliament who can't balance a budget debate it for decades to have the state involved.

It has been framed as a fight between the crazy religious vs the emphatic who do not want people to suffer but it is just a common sense thing like going discretely to the toilet without having everyone involved.