- To be clear, we’ll want to see how this performs against the hold-out set. If it holds up, though, it’s a big deal, and kind of in line with the vibes this year, which I’d typify as ‘harness matters’. Maybe we’d upgrade to ‘harness matters immensely’ if this can 100% ARC-AGI-3 on existing models (more in the 13% range without this harness).
I’m pretty excited to see what sort of generalization we come to over the next 12 months on the harness side: if it turns out this can be RLed in as ‘consider if building a world model might help here’ and we get this as another native capacity, that will be interesting. If we get 100 of those problem-solving strategies all included, feels like we will see another hurdle cleared in terms of usefulness.
by ClassAndBurn
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- Any custom harness for a problem shows that harness engineering is going away. Eventually models will introspect problems, then build custom harnesses tailored to that. Then use and modify the ephemeral harness as required.
Sol Ultra style is the path forward. The models are smart enough to self serve their tooling and processes. Given a problem they can figure it out and ask for directions when needed.
- In the spirit of ARC-AGI-3-like challenges, we just tested if frontier AI models are able to solve a lovely puzzle game, Baba Is You: https://quesma.com/blog/baba-is-bench/
A year ago, Sonnet 4 barely solved the first level. Now, both Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol beat the first two stages. GPT 5.2 is slow, but efficient, while Gemini 3.1 Pro and 3.5 Flash struggle.
- it looks like what they are doing is using a frontier model to write a simulator for a game and then solve using it.
it's not as impressive as it looks. the goals of Arc-AGI-like constructs is to get an IQ-like figure using raw'ish 2D measurement 'games' in the hope that it would signify something meaningful.
what this harness does is get the model to write a simulator first, it's measuring something entirely different.
by gandalfgeek
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- Big jump for sure, but definitely comes with a giant grain of salt lacking open-sourcing the harness itself and measuring performance on the held-out set.
by netinstructions
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- I can't tell based on this article if the authors intend to submit this to Arc-AGI for the private / held-out set of games for a verified score. The final section sorta seems like they won't bother because Arc-AGI-3 is "now saturated"
- > Both scores come from a fixed fallback rule: Opus 4.8 and Sol xhigh run first; games scoring below 80 are rerun with Fable 5 and Sol max, respectively, and the higher per-game score is retained.
hmm, this is like pass@n until you get the high watermark? How would this mean anything?
by levocardia
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- (1) What does it score on the private test set?
(2) Does this approach generalize to, e.g., Atari or NES games, or is it just hard-coding priors about the games into the model (as Chollet specifically warned was a chronic problem in benchmarks in the original Arc-AGI paper)
by daytonellwanger
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- Can someone tell me what the catch is? To outperform the state-of-the-art so drastically would be massive news, and surely the ARC Foundation would have tested this against the private data set, right?
by Alifatisk
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- What does it mean to reach 99% score on Arc-AGI-3? That the agent is able to tackle difficult problems?
- We need to see private set results, but if this holds then it might represent a breakthrough in other domains as well.
- Where's the code?
- I pretty much predicted this. If such smart models capable of doing math research fail so hard on such simple games the interface is the problem, not the model. Right harness provides a good interface between the problem and the intelligence.
by nathan_compton
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- God, who the fuck are they even writing this slop for? Other machines?
Neat. Maybe even deeply interesting. Absolutely garbage write up.
- > Schema, the harness we introduce today, reaches 99% on the ARC‑AGI‑3 Public set using Claude Opus 4.8 and Fable 5, and 95.35% using GPT‑5.6 Sol.
Impressive results. Will this translate to coding agents (and training general purpose and for coding LLMs) too?
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> When Michelson and Morley could not detect the medium light was supposed to wave in, Lorentz took the first route: keep the aether, patch the rules with contraction hypotheses that absorbed the null result. Einstein took the second: in special relativity, he discarded the aether as part of the state and made simultaneity frame-relative, yielding a simple electrodynamics of moving bodies.
BECs, SVT, Superfluid Quantum Gravity
Massful photons are modeled with Proca fields. Like Einstein, Proca was also a student of Minkowski. The Mass-Equivalence principle ~~does not~~ still holds if photons have mass.
(edit) Energy-momentum relation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy%E2%80%93momentum_relati...
> could not detect the medium light was supposed to wave in,
Superfluid Quantum Gravity (Fedi,) says that there is a medium that light waves through; there is not nothing in space, space is a quantum dilatant superfluid with near-zero viscosity.
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