by trollbridge
5 subcomments
Your Google Account holds a lot of valuable information, from cherished photos to important emails and documents.
Stuff like this is why I and many other people are going out of our way to make this no longer the case.
by Cider9986
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- >If you've violated a Google policy, we may save your selfie video for a longer period of time to enforce our policies.
- https://nevergivethemyourface.com/
by pudgywalsh
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- I'm waiting for the new killer feature where "Sign In With Google" popup overlay dialogs go away forever and never come back.
by iosjunkie
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- I would love to know how they are going to handle deepfakes.
Also, doesn't this give law enforcement an easier avenue to compel access to someone's accounts?
- If there were a Doomsday Clock for how close we are to "please drink verification can" (https://files.catbox.moe/eqg0b2.png), scientists would now move it to 3 minutes to midnight.
- Let us get this straight and clear, because at first reading it seems like an "innocent" extra option:
the risk we assess is that under some conditions the provider could block the account, and the user would remain locked out unless he had the ability to do camera-based verification, so camera-based verification becomes from just optional to substantially mandatory?
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Edit: elsewhere it seems it is mandated:
> To help keep you and others safe online, you may need to complete additional steps to access certain services. This extra confirmation helps us verify that the account owner is a real person and that the account wasn't created or used by computer programs or bots for the purpose of abuse, like spamming
Plus,
> To take a selfie [for "selfie video verification"], you'll need a mobile device with a Camera app
for many, it's a no.
- The fact that most people will love this is depressing.
by muppetman
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- Google already have 5,000 odd photos of me anyway in Google photos. I'm screwed either way.
by thisislife2
0 subcomment
- That's Google in a nutshell - "the more personal data you give us, the more access you can have to Google services".
by neuralkoi
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- Every time Google comes out with a new "feature" like this, it reminds me to resume my de-Googling journey with reinforced vigor. Drive and Photos are low-hanging fruit. GMail and YouTube will be more difficult.
- Respectfully, John and Claire, what do they have you guys doing? Please blink twice in your selfies if you're okay.
by iamnothere
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- I guess next this will be required for new account setup, then to retain access to your existing account.
Time to move the last few things I have out of Google (mostly shared documents). I’m glad I started this move several years ago.
- Certainly this will never go wrong in any possible way.
by stevenalowe
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- Introducing...a feature no one actually wants, that opens a brand new security attack surface. Much wow.
- I happily will provide my selfie with one brown eye and round pale face
by wafflemaker
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- Look at the positive!
If they force people to smile to log in, the whole population will be statistically happier*.
Maybe even happier enough to offset being violated like that.
*: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01458-9
- April fools?
- Next on Google's list, blood draw for sign-in.
- Is this basically “Video KYC” as required in some countries to open a bank account?
- Meanwhile google has been locking out and closing the gmail accounts of people, myself included, that signed up before a phone number was required. If you don't log into your account for ~a year or so they will lock it and demand you log in. Which you can do, and you can even input the 2FA code, but it still won't let you log in because it says "there's not enough information to prove this is your account" despite having all the information ever associated with it. The only way to prevent deletion is to add a completely new, never before there phone number. I couldn't do that so they deleted mine saying I never logged in despite logging in literally dozens of times.
- > Your Google Account holds a lot of valuable information, from cherished photos to important emails and documents.
No, it does not. I create an account only when I'm forced to, e.g. on Google-certified Android phones, where I keep all synchronization off.
I'm eagerly waiting for official GrapheneOS phones. Pixels are a no-go for me because of the price-to-perf/quality ratio.
PS. It takes about 50 minutes to hunt down and turn off hopefully all the data grabbing features on a Samsung Android phone. Madness!
by doomboiardee
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- Is this a rebranded marketing/tech-spin of age verification?
- Sounds like a bad idea on so many layers. I don't want to give more selfies for training, feels like a disaster about to happen
- If only they wouldn't be evil...
ugh.
by floralhangnail
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- Optional today, mandatory tomorrow.
by angoragoats
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- I am surprised and encouraged by the fact that almost all of the comments here are negative!
I would absolutely delete/abandon my Google account before voluntarily giving them my facial data.
by charcircuit
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- This already exists and is called FaceID and doesn't have the same privacy risks since the face check is done locally to allow the user to use the passkey to authenticate.
>Your selfie video is encrypted at rest
All data nowadays is encrypted at rest. That doesn't really matter since someone stealing a hard drive from Google with your information on it will never happen. The more likely risk is Google decrypts it and then sends it somewhere it shouldn't go and potentially trained into some AI system.
by ProfessorLayton
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- This seems like a terrible idea because deepfakes are getting better and better, even with them mentioning them and handwaving concerns away.
- I thought it is already April Fools for a while...
by newswangerd
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- I had to double check that today isn’t April 1st
- If this means that Google will do eventually do age verification then I think I trust them more than I trust Persona.
- What you are is one factor. What happened to MFA approach here?
Also it is a factor we cannot change, so if someone obtain a video of our face like that or success in making a working fake, we cannot change our look like we can with a password.
by moritzwarhier
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- This sounds... totally normal.
Emphasis on "totally".
But I guess Google coming out with a cloud-based FaceID clone was just a matter of time...
apart from using just a vastly larger amount of 2D photos and more precise PI techniques, instead of that stupid local-only, small-AI-based, 3D-scanning technique that falls back to passwords...
eh, I prefer Apple as my good cop ever since I can afford Apple devices
- Yeah, how about absolutely fuck no.
Zero chance I will your train your AI.
- I'm surprised how fast this came from the whole "give us your hand" bullshit with reCaptcha not being that long ago.
https://docs.cloud.google.com/recaptcha/docs/hand-gesture-ve...
"Google analyzes one or more videos of a user's hand as they perform various actions or gestures. The video is processed to extract hand landmark data, which includes 21 hand-knuckle coordinates."
by guessmyname
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by leet-stick-7299
0 subcomment
- Thats gona go well in history.
- Wow this is a terrible idea. I used to really respect the security and identity team what happened?
- [dead]
- Next step is to require the full transcript of your genome!
/s
by lardosaurusrex
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- Just ban me at that point lmfao.
Like
If anything asked me for a selfie I'd close it and not go back. I just. No lmao absolutely not; go heck yourselves.
i just... god no. holy heck.